New Exige
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For those that are interested, there are quite a few new details on the Exige V6 over here: http://www.seloc.org/tag/exige-v6/
Pricing information, side by side shots with the S2 Exige, video of the car on the Nurburgring, press shots, etc.
Pricing information, side by side shots with the S2 Exige, video of the car on the Nurburgring, press shots, etc.
Hi there
Spie often ask me if I have any next car ideas, at which I often don't have a car which could truly replace the 911. Yes sometimes I think GTR just for the outright power, but then I suspect I'd get bored of a GTR in short time and also rather upset at the running cost to go with it too. For me that really leaves nothing in the 50k and under camp, apart from saving possibly for a GT3 or maybe contemplating a Turbo, but as daft as it sounds I preferre my C2S to the Turbo's I've driven, yes they have incredible power but the C2S sounds better and just seems a lot more involving. Hence why I think about GT3's but problem is moving into a GT3 will give me a good 50BHP or so more and the car will be only approx a similar weight, or maybe 50kg lighter at best for the right spec, so one wonders would I really feel the GT3 worth the extra investment, though admittedly the noise made by a GT3 is epic and the fact it winds up past 8000rpm is very nice. But it can't be that far away from my C2S (My C2S has aerokit, Ceramics, X51 bits, PSE etc.), could a GT3 be night and day different like my CSL was compared to regular M3? After driving 996 GT3's I think my 997 is the more capable road car, but the 996 GT3 has it just on the track, but the 996 is far less forgiving. So there is no doubting a 997 GT3 will be noticably better on track and no doubt as good on the road, just whether it would be worth it.
So why in this thread, well I've been researching more and more about the new 2012 Exige S and I think it is this that will be my next car in mid 2013 as one would expect year old examples to be circa 35-40k judging by depreciation on previous Lotus and the new Exige sounds perfect on paper and lightning quick.
My 911 has 266BHP/tonne, a 997.1 GT3 has circa 300BHP/tonne and the new Exige in stock trim is close to 320BHP/tonne so needless to say its going to be faster and have what I absolutely love about cars, tonns of feel from every aspect, steering, seat of pants etc. Infact it seems perfect and I must get myself a test drive when Lotus have got demonstrators to see if its a car I really could live with day to day and use mainly as my daily, though I do now have the S-Type as backup should I not want to experience the amazing comfort of an Exige.
So I can go from one very sorted 997.1 C2S to a 997.1 GT3 and yes the GT3 will be a great experience but am not quite sure its the night and day difference over my spec'd C2S as say what my M3 CSL was compared to a regular M3 due to the specification/options of my 911. As such if I could live with an Exige S I suspect it will be a vastly different car with a completely different experience to my car and certainly something to enjoy and as I am enjoying track days the Exige S would eat those up, so feel as if the new Exige could keep me entertained for a good couple of years just as the 911 will do, hence this won't happen until 2013.
So Lotus experts, is the 2012 Exige going to be any more comfortable/refined than the outgoing Exige. What is the highest level of comfort pack one can get, whats included, any additional weight?
Those thinking Evora, simply not interested sorry, I rate the 911 as better, for a start the 911 weighs less and has more power and I am not sold on the Evoras styling either, so one of those won't do.
Spie often ask me if I have any next car ideas, at which I often don't have a car which could truly replace the 911. Yes sometimes I think GTR just for the outright power, but then I suspect I'd get bored of a GTR in short time and also rather upset at the running cost to go with it too. For me that really leaves nothing in the 50k and under camp, apart from saving possibly for a GT3 or maybe contemplating a Turbo, but as daft as it sounds I preferre my C2S to the Turbo's I've driven, yes they have incredible power but the C2S sounds better and just seems a lot more involving. Hence why I think about GT3's but problem is moving into a GT3 will give me a good 50BHP or so more and the car will be only approx a similar weight, or maybe 50kg lighter at best for the right spec, so one wonders would I really feel the GT3 worth the extra investment, though admittedly the noise made by a GT3 is epic and the fact it winds up past 8000rpm is very nice. But it can't be that far away from my C2S (My C2S has aerokit, Ceramics, X51 bits, PSE etc.), could a GT3 be night and day different like my CSL was compared to regular M3? After driving 996 GT3's I think my 997 is the more capable road car, but the 996 GT3 has it just on the track, but the 996 is far less forgiving. So there is no doubting a 997 GT3 will be noticably better on track and no doubt as good on the road, just whether it would be worth it.
So why in this thread, well I've been researching more and more about the new 2012 Exige S and I think it is this that will be my next car in mid 2013 as one would expect year old examples to be circa 35-40k judging by depreciation on previous Lotus and the new Exige sounds perfect on paper and lightning quick.
My 911 has 266BHP/tonne, a 997.1 GT3 has circa 300BHP/tonne and the new Exige in stock trim is close to 320BHP/tonne so needless to say its going to be faster and have what I absolutely love about cars, tonns of feel from every aspect, steering, seat of pants etc. Infact it seems perfect and I must get myself a test drive when Lotus have got demonstrators to see if its a car I really could live with day to day and use mainly as my daily, though I do now have the S-Type as backup should I not want to experience the amazing comfort of an Exige.
So I can go from one very sorted 997.1 C2S to a 997.1 GT3 and yes the GT3 will be a great experience but am not quite sure its the night and day difference over my spec'd C2S as say what my M3 CSL was compared to a regular M3 due to the specification/options of my 911. As such if I could live with an Exige S I suspect it will be a vastly different car with a completely different experience to my car and certainly something to enjoy and as I am enjoying track days the Exige S would eat those up, so feel as if the new Exige could keep me entertained for a good couple of years just as the 911 will do, hence this won't happen until 2013.
So Lotus experts, is the 2012 Exige going to be any more comfortable/refined than the outgoing Exige. What is the highest level of comfort pack one can get, whats included, any additional weight?
Those thinking Evora, simply not interested sorry, I rate the 911 as better, for a start the 911 weighs less and has more power and I am not sold on the Evoras styling either, so one of those won't do.
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Eh?? What are the Elise and Evora?
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Bit off topic - but I've not spent as much time on the forums as I'd have liked to and must have missed you getting the Elise. I think you had a powder blue Exige last time I remember. The supercharged K20 swap must be absolutely fantastic. Is it as good as it sounds??
mk1_salami
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Sounds like a perfect swap. It's a shame I live so far away or I'd be badgering you for a pax ride.
So why in this thread, well I've been researching more and more about the new 2012 Exige S and I think it is this that will be my next car in mid 2013 as one would expect year old examples to be circa 35-40k judging by depreciation on previous Lotus and the new Exige sounds perfect on paper and lightning quick.
My 911 has 266BHP/tonne, a 997.1 GT3 has circa 300BHP/tonne and the new Exige in stock trim is close to 320BHP/tonne so needless to say its going to be faster and have what I absolutely love about cars, tonns of feel from every aspect, steering, seat of pants etc. Infact it seems perfect and I must get myself a test drive when Lotus have got demonstrators to see if its a car I really could live with day to day and use mainly as my daily, though I do now have the S-Type as backup should I not want to experience the amazing comfort of an Exige.
So I can go from one very sorted 997.1 C2S to a 997.1 GT3 and yes the GT3 will be a great experience but am not quite sure its the night and day difference over my spec'd C2S as say what my M3 CSL was compared to a regular M3 due to the specification/options of my 911. As such if I could live with an Exige S I suspect it will be a vastly different car with a completely different experience to my car and certainly something to enjoy and as I am enjoying track days the Exige S would eat those up, so feel as if the new Exige could keep me entertained for a good couple of years just as the 911 will do, hence this won't happen until 2013.
So Lotus experts, is the 2012 Exige going to be any more comfortable/refined than the outgoing Exige. What is the highest level of comfort pack one can get, whats included, any additional weight?
Gibbo, I've been doing quite a bit of writing and research around the Exige S as of late so might be able to offer some help.
I've written up on the various options and trim packs here: http://www.seloc.org/articles/guides/exige-s-v6-product-news-analysis/
And on my experience at the Preview Day here: http://www.seloc.org/articles/guides/first-impressions-of-the-exige-s-v6/
Basic jist is you have three interior trim specs, standard, Premium and Premium Sport. The interior layout is the same as existing Exiges so in terms of seat adjustment, steering wheel and gearstick positioning, and other bits and pieces it's all unchanged. I did note however that the Premium Sport seats in the show car they took to the preview days seemed a step up from the Pro-bax Exige Sport Seats I've fitted to my Elise.
As for track days, I'd imagine you'll find an Exige cheaper to run than a 911 by a fair margin. The only tricky bit may be the rear tyres are a weird size so non-Pirelli options may be limited for a while. Regular track day drivers will no doubt want the Race Pack (launch control, track optimised suspension and 'Race' DPM mode) and the semi-slick Pirelli P-Zero Trofeo tyres.
Got quite a bit of extra documentation on the Exige S beyond what has been given out so if you have any specific questions drop me a PM and I'll be happy to help.
Will be borrowing one once the dealer demonstrators have arrived to do a write up, having driven the Evora S and S IPS I can't wait to see what the new Exige can do with 400kg less to push around
Gibbo, I've been doing quite a bit of writing and research around the Exige S as of late so might be able to offer some help.
I've written up on the various options and trim packs here: http://www.seloc.org/articles/guides/exige-s-v6-product-news-analysis/
And on my experience at the Preview Day here: http://www.seloc.org/articles/guides/first-impressions-of-the-exige-s-v6/
Basic jist is you have three interior trim specs, standard, Premium and Premium Sport. The interior layout is the same as existing Exiges so in terms of seat adjustment, steering wheel and gearstick positioning, and other bits and pieces it's all unchanged. I did note however that the Premium Sport seats in the show car they took to the preview days seemed a step up from the Pro-bax Exige Sport Seats I've fitted to my Elise.
As for track days, I'd imagine you'll find an Exige cheaper to run than a 911 by a fair margin. The only tricky bit may be the rear tyres are a weird size so non-Pirelli options may be limited for a while. Regular track day drivers will no doubt want the Race Pack (launch control, track optimised suspension and 'Race' DPM mode) and the semi-slick Pirelli P-Zero Trofeo tyres.
Got quite a bit of extra documentation on the Exige S beyond what has been given out so if you have any specific questions drop me a PM and I'll be happy to help.
Will be borrowing one once the dealer demonstrators have arrived to do a write up, having driven the Evora S and S IPS I can't wait to see what the new Exige can do with 400kg less to push around
Hi m8
I'd want the race spec but without the trofeo tyres as they are only any good for track use and the rears will only last circa 1000 miles. I've driven on Pirelli Corsas and by far they are the best tyre I've had the joy of driving on. Near CUP levels of grip on track but far more progressive at the limits of adhesion and quite capable in the wet too, plus they last well. Shame they are no longer made for the 911 / GT3 otherwise they'd be on my 911.
Still as I'd be buying a 12-18 month old car tyres would not be an issue anyway, the only way I'd be buying new would be if they hardly depreciate at all, doubtful.
The race trim mentions more grip out of corners, I assume they are getting this from tyres suspension work, or is there a different diff in the car? Does the race pack make the suspension a lot firmer on the road?
With race pack do you still only have three traction settings or is there a new 4th setting?
How do the three trim options actually differ, do you get carpets with one etc?
Lotus planning any upgrade kits or plans for a CUP 380BHP version for maybe 2013 as one would assume the engine has a bit more to give!
As far as I'm aware the Exige S sticks with an open-diff, an LSD was an option on some Exiges but generally only recommended for racing. I've not seen mention of one for the Evora or Exige S and I think even the 2-11 came with an open-diff as standard.
If you look on this page you can see explanations of the DPM settings and the interior trim options - click through the images to see them full size. The Premium interior has full carpet sets, where as Premium Sport has carpeted footwells but leaves the aluminium tub itself exposed, which personally I prefer.
I've not heard anything on this front, but it's probably not a great plan to go announcing such things before the basic car has even arrived. The Evora GTE engine runs about 440bhp however and should fit...