New Formula 1 2017 Aero Rules!

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Oh dear...

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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/122947

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/122950

2017 cars will be wider, longer and heavier. Tyres will be wider, but front wings will be bigger, swept, and more complex, rear wings will be lower, wider and more complex, barge board and on body aero will be more complex, and the diffuser will be wider, longer, higher and more complex.

The result? Faster cars (due to aero)... that are impossible to follow or overtake (due to aero).

WELL DONE FIA!

*slow golf clap*

However, the stated intentions do not included improving overtaking, and many of these changes reverse the work done by the Overtaking Working Group back in 2009.
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Its so frustrating. They start off ok with the wider tires and wider cars, and then ruin it all by making the aero more complex.

It feels like literally everyone outside of the decision making room can see the solution (more mechanical grip, less aero grip, ground effect, etc), yet those inside are completely blind to it all.

The mandated "swept-ness" of it all feels very contrived and forced as a way to make the cars look different.
 
You've not read the proposed changes have you? Both wings will be wider, deeper and have the same or more complexity, and the diffuser is getting longer, wider and taller. The exclusion zone that removed the complex barge boards and sidepod wingles, flip ups and other appendages is also being removed.

All the changes they made in 2009 are being reversed. Mechanical grip increases will be negated by the increased turbulence and reliance on aero making it even more impossible to follow closely.
 
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If you put a lot of selfish intelligent people together who will never in a million years agree on anything, it makes sense that only the stupid stuff makes it out.
 
This kind of slipped through the net a bit with all the other stupidity floating around the F1 Padock, but these 2017 aero regulations were approved by the World Motorsport Council last week, so this is what the 2017 car will look like.

:(
 
The FIA broke it by selling the rule making rights as a way to stop the teams leaving and killing the sport, but in doing so have ended up with a rule making process that will kill it anyway.
 
For an organisation whos primary purpose is to run global motor racing series, they regularly show a serious lack of competence in actually running global motor racing series'.

Is there a single FIA run series that has got better recently rather than worse? (With the exception of World RX, which is actually turning into something pretty awesome!). Formula 3 is being abandoned by teams, Formula 2 is dead, Formula 1 is struggling, GT1 and GT3 are dead, WRC is falling into insignificance, WTCC is struggling, etc.
 
I mean the FIA series. The format itself if booming, yet the FIA run series of it dies (well, merged), which is actually an even worse reflection on the FIA if they can't even sustain a championship within a boyant formula.

WEC is an ACO run series really. Its just got a partnership with the FIA in order to be able to call itself a World Championship. The FIA have little to no say in the technical regulations, and have no involvement with the 2nd teir regional Le Man's Series championships.

It seems that what ever type of motor racing you look at, there are always other people doing a better job than the FIA.
 
Ah ok, I see.

2 problems with that then. Firstly, I thought it was universally agreed that F1 being aero dominated was a bad thing? And secondly, at least there are multiple teams running Ferrari and Mercedes engines, whereas there will only ever be 1 manufacturer running its aero, so dominance will be at an individual team level.

With identical chassis and custom engines, you could expect all the Mercedes powered cars to be fighting for wins with Ferrari powered one nipping at their heels.
With identical engines and individually designed chassis, you may as well give all the trophies to Red Bull and not bother with the hassle of running a Championship.

Also, its worth pointing out that Mercedes and Ferrari don't have a strangle hold on the rules through being engine manufacturers. The engine manufactures are actually totally absent from the F1 Strategy group. Mercedes and Ferrari are there as teams, along with RBR, Williams, McLaren and Force India.
 
Lol! Just twigged something while the team principle press conference is going on.

These new aero rules will create more drag and therefore make the cars use more fuel. However, the fuel allowance is not being increased, so these new rules are going to increase fuel saving during the race.
 
Yeah moving from 100kg to 105kg is a pointless token move. Especially as like you say, they don't put all 100kg in them most of the time anyway.
 
I fear your taring the whole of Motorsport with a single F1 brush there.

Last time I went to some Motorsport I was 2m from the track edge, watching brilliant racing in a field of 10+ different manufacturers with very different ways of going racing (BTCC at Brands).

My dads off to an event this weekend where looking around the cars and chatting with the drivers is the main reason you go (British Hillclimb at Gurston Down).

I'm thinking of heading to watch some proper brutal racing tomorrow (Rallycross at Lydden Hill).

Claiming that modern Motorsport is rubbish because F1 is detached from fans is as bad as those people who dismiss a whole race as being boring having seen nothing more than who won it.
 
Then you issue is your own opinion.

I've been to plenty of historic racing events recently to, at Brands, Thruxton, Combe and Silverstone. Perhaps seek out what you enjoy rather than trying too hard to complain about what you don't?
 
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