New gaming/homework PC

Havana_UK said:
Thanks, but I'm put off by it being only 100Hz. Is this something I shouldn't worry too much about with Freesync?

/edit - I see this one doesn't support Freesync. I'd looked at the AOC 27" one for £199, but £70 is a decent chunk of saving by going for the 1080p option and that will ensure the GPU stays relevant for a long time as well. Decisions....
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If your graphics card is capable of 144fps (depending on game)which equates to 144mhz then the game will be slightly smoother than 100mhz but would you notice is the question.

Freesync and adaptive sync are virtually the same..

Its head bash for sure monitor choose.

1440p looks better on a 27" screen


Take a look at AOC Q27G2E/BK​


But check reviews.
 
mickyflinn said:
If your graphics card is capable of 144fps (depending on game)which equates to 144mhz then the game will be slightly smoother than 100mhz but would you notice is the question.

Freesync and adaptive sync are virtually the same..

Its head bash for sure monitor choose.

1440p looks better on a 27" screen


Take a look at AOC Q27G2E/BK​


But check reviews.
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The AOC Q27G2E os exactly the one I was originally looking at...

I've previously had lower refresh rate monitors (typically 60Hz) and that became very frustrating. 144Hz is for my tastes a minimum really, it makes for a much smoother experience.
 
Further thoughts...for not a LOT more money I could build with AM5:
My basket at OcUK:

Total: £1,412.83 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

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NVME drives deliberately excluded...I've just bought a couple of WD ones for a great price!

I'll also get a 2nd Starfield code (a standard one) which I could sell for ~£30 I guess
 
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I think 1080p is quite limiting for study or professional work as well so if you could swing for 1440p it should legitimately help studies, not just gaming. 1440p enough to work on a document and have reference sites or another document side by side, 1080p might have to waste more time resizing windows and organising the desktop. I find 1440p so much better for productivity than 1080p.
 
Havana_UK said:
Further thoughts...for not a LOT more money I could build with AM5:
My basket at OcUK:

Total: £1,412.83 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

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NVME drives deliberately excluded...I've just bought a couple of WD ones for a great price!

I'll also get a 2nd Starfield code (a standard one) which I could sell for ~£30 I guess
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ASUS Prime low end AM5 boards are the worst available. I would go with Asrock, Msi, Gigabyte, basically anything but ASUS.
 
Razer Ornata V3 TKL Hybrid Gaming Keyboard (Z03-04880300-R3W1)
KB-15F-RA
£70 (incl. VAT)
£65 (incl. VAT)
Find out more
Asus Prime B650M-A WIFI II (Socket AM5) DDR5 Micro-ATX Motherboard
MB-6K6-AS
£115 (incl. VAT)
Find out more
AMD Ryzen 5 7600 Six Core 5.10GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail
CP-3DW-AM
£180 (incl. VAT)
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FredFlint said:
ASUS Prime low end AM5 boards are the worst available. I would go with Asrock, Msi, Gigabyte, basically anything but ASUS.
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Only thing I would say is, I think the board was £180-£200 when HUB originally tested it? Whereas, these low-end boards are getting nearer £120-£140 now.
 
Tetras said:
Only thing I would say is, I think the board was £180-£200 when HUB originally tested it? Whereas, these low-end boards are getting nearer £120-£140 now.
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Yes, that’s probably because of the bad reviews. I would get a cheaper 32GB 5600 kit(<£100) and mouse/keyboard and put the saving into a better board. The AM5 socket should last 2-3 CPU generation so…
 
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Tweaked it with a different (better?) motherboard. RAM removed as I've just bought a G Skill kit on the MM.

My basket at OcUK:

Total: £1,301.84 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

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I think the AM5 platform is a much better choice for future upgrade path. I'm not making the purchase right now so will keep eye on MM for any components coming up which I'll need to avoid buying brand new.​
 
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Havana_UK said:
Tweaked it with a different (better?) motherboard.
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Wrong socket.

Honestly, I wouldn't worry that much even with the Prime, if you're only using the 7600. It was tested with a 7950X, after 1 hour of Cinebench:

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The B650M-A II also had much better results than the I, maybe because of the much more substantial heatsink.
 
Tetras said:
Wrong socket.

Honestly, I wouldn't worry that much even with the Prime, if you're only using the 7600. It was tested with a 7950X, after 1 hour of Cinebench:

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The B650M-A II also had much better results than the I, maybe because of the much more substantial heatsink.
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Duh, OFC!!!! Facepalm moment :D

OK, thanks. I'm am thinking AM5 with a potential future 7800X3D (or whatever else comes)...would this influence your choice?

My basket at OcUK:

Total: £1,333.80 (includes delivery: £0.00)​



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Tetras said:
Not in terms of the VRMs, no. I'd even buy A620 if necessary to keep costs down.
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So the cheapest B650 Asus board I originally picked is a viable option then, saving £50 vs the Gigabyte board I've got in the basked above. I'm not super worried about the budget, but I want to get value, decent components, and a viable upgrade path without going silly. For example, I'd begrudge spending >£200 on a motherboard, that just seems daft, though I appreciate motherboards for both sides this generation seem to have leapt up in price across the board.
 
Havana_UK said:
I want to get value, decent components, and a viable upgrade path without going silly
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With AM4, you can upgrade the CPU regardless of chipset, so even A320 can run the 5800X3D, though the community did have to push for this.

The compromise with lower-end boards (aside from the VRMs) is that you get less of everything, less M.2 & PCI-E slots, less USB & SATA, lower-end sound with fewer jacks and no spdif.

If we take the TUF A620M-Plus though, for example: then you still have 4 memory slots, 2x PCI-E 4.0 M.2 slots, 4 SATA, 4 rear USB 2.0, 2 rear USB 3.2 Gen 1, option of front USB Type-C and Realtek 2.5Gb LAN. That's plenty good enough for the average user.
 
Thanks for the help everyone. Everything arrived from OcUK in good time, just waiting on the DDR5 (which I bought from the MM) to arrive and the system will be up and running. I went with the Peerless Assassin cooler as recommended - looks pretty decent! Will report back once the RAM is in :)
 
Great news. Do build it with your son: it will be a great shared experience.

Get yourself some extra thermal paste - Arctic MX or similar - so you can practice beforehand (use isopropyl alcohol to remove it).
 
Quartz said:
Great news. Do build it with your son: it will be a great shared experience.

Get yourself some extra thermal paste - Arctic MX or similar - so you can practice beforehand (use isopropyl alcohol to remove it).
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We already did - I THINK he was interested (ish)! I've got loads of thermal paste knocking about, this isn't my first rodeo :D
 
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