NEW GAMING PC FOR 18TH BIRTHDAY PRESENT. HELP!

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Hello All

Thank you in advance for any advice given in advance.

My son is 18 next month and is computer crazy. He has always had imacs until now, but he wants a new gaming pc. I am not good with computers so would really appreciate any help. This a special birthday/ Christmas present and we are willing to pay £2k maybe more for the right computer. Have been advised to use overclockers for this purchase.

He currently has a two screen set up from his imac which has an i5 processor. He plays games from more basic roblox , minecraft up to more advanced games. He watches lots of videos. He always has lots of windows open at same time and video calls his mates while playing. He is autistic and spends a large amount of time on his computer everyday. Its his escape and he loves it. He likes the lights and open tower design. He would like a i9 processor even though I do not think its needed. He tells me it needs a good graphics card and storage.

I was looking at this as its pre built. But can I ask you guys if you had £2000 to £2500 give or take is this the best bang for buck or can you recommend an alternative.

▷ OcUK Gaming FSG Pro MK2 - 1440p/4K Pre-Built … | OcUK (overclockers.co.uk)

Thank you for your help. Its much appreciated

Peter
 
Hello Jay85
Thank you for your response and advice.

Can I ask what Alderlake is? ;) What do you think of the spec on that computer in link? Is that a good spec to be thinking about.

Thanks Again

Peter
 
No problem I will keep an eye out for any new or discounted models and I will post again towards the end of next week to see if you have any new recommendations
due to the new alderlake processor.

It is so helpful to get some independent and very knowledgeable advice.

Thank you ;);)
 
Hello Haz123

Thank you for your response. Wow that is a big jump in cost. As you say currently paying a premium for brand new tech.
Lets see what happens, I have bit of time yet. You have opened the option of AMD Ryzen which I would not have considered before.

You know what its like, I just want to get him the best spec I can. If you see anything else please post it

Thank you again for your help today.

Peter
 
Hello Everyone

Sorry was working at weekend and I did not have a chance to catch up.
First, thank you to all of you have taken time to post and share your views. All much appreciated.
After the posts about alder lake last week I went away thinking I was going to have to raid the piggy bank to get the alder lake model that was linked
by Haz123 as at that time you considered it the best option

1 x OcUK Gaming Zirconium - Intel Core i9 12900KF, GeForce RTX 3080Ti Pro Gaming PC = £3,724.97

However I am concerned after reading further posts this may have glitches that new technology is prone to when first released which is not something I can really consider when my son uses his computer everyday.

Haz123 has also suggested the following and Mickyflinn confirmed the ryzen model was good

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ocuk...rd-gen-pro-gaming-configurator-fs-01u-tl.html

My basket at overclockers uk:
  • 1 x OcUK Tech Labs AMD Ryzen 3rd Gen Pro Gaming Configurator = £2,526.73
    • CPU:AMD Ryzen 7 5800X Eight Core 4.7GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail
    • Motherboard:MSI MAG X570S Tomahawk MAX WiFi (AMD AM4) DDR4 X570S ATX Motherboard
    • CPU Cooler:EK Water Blocks EK-AIO 360 D-RGB All In One CPU Water Cooler - 360mm
    • Memory:Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO Black 32GB (2x16GB) 3600MHz AMD Ryzen Tuned DDR4 Memory Dual Kit
    • M.2 Solid State Drive 1 (Primary Drive If Selected):WD Black SN750 1TB M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen3 Solid State Drive (WDS100T3X0C)
    • M.2 Solid State Drive 2:Unwanted
    • 2.5" SATA Solid State Drive 1:Unwanted
    • 2.5" SATA Solid State Drive 2:Unwanted
    • Mechanical Hard Drive 1:Seagate BarraCuda 2TB 7200RPM 256MB Cache Hard Drive - *System Stock*
    • Mechanical Hard Drive 2:Unwanted
    • Power Supply:Corsair RMx Series RM850x 80 PLUS Gold Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
    • Soundcard:Unwanted
    • Network Adapter:Unwanted
    • Case Lighting:Unwanted
    • Operating System:Microsoft Windows 10 Home Advanced - Systems
    • Security Software:Unwanted
    • Build Time:Standard Build Systems - Dispatched in approx 10-15 working days
    • Gaming Chair:Unwanted
    • Gaming Desk:Unwanted
    • Cases:Lian-Li PC-O11 Dynamic Midi-Tower - White Window
    • Graphics Card:Asus GeForce RTX 3070 Ti TUF OC 8GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card
    • Headset:Unwanted
    • Mouse:Unwanted
    • Keyboard:Unwanted
    • Speakers:Unwanted
    • Monitors:Unwanted
Total: £2,540.83 (includes shipping: £14.10)


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- https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ocuk...orce-rtx-3000-series-gaming-pc-fs-1f1-og.html

My basket at overclockers uk:
  • 1 x OcUK Gaming Zirconium Ice - Intel Core i7 12700KF, GeForce RTX 3000 Series Gaming PC = £2,799.95
    • Memory:Team Group Night Hawk RGB 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C16 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit - RGB Black (TF1D4
    • Primary M.2 Solid State Drive:Samsung 980 Pro 500GB M.2 2280 PCI-e 4.0 x4 NVMe Solid State Drive
    • Secondary M.2 Solid State Drive:Unwanted
    • Primary 2.5" Solid State Drive:TeamGroup 1TB Vulcan G SSD 2.5" SATA 6Gbps 3D NAND Solid State Drive
    • Operating System:Microsoft Windows 10 Home Advanced - Systems
    • Security Software:**Special Offer** Bullguard Internet Security - Anti-Virus and Security - 1 Year 3 PC
    • Processor:Intel Core i7-12700KF 3.60GHz (Alder Lake) Socket LGA1700 Processor - OEM
    • Graphics Card:*Build Stock* Asus GeForce RTX 3070 ROG Strix Gaming OC White Edition 8GB GDDR6 Graphics Card
Total: £2,814.05 (includes shipping: £14.10)


I am now strongly considering the ryzen option above as its known technology. . Please can you reassure me this is a good decision as its a big outlay and I have heard of intel but not really heard so much of Ryzen. Also want to know this build is futureproofed for a while.

As I was considering extending myself moneywise to get alder lake, is there anything you would tweak on the ryzen build if you had a bit more budget? Maybe £3K maybe a bit more: next level ryzen processor, graphics card, storage or whatever to make it even better. Or is this advanced enough

I would like to get a case that lights up. Lan li was mentioned. Has anyone got a picture of one or something similar?

Can anyone suggest a good monitor to go with this? Would a 30inch be good? Other family members are going to get this for him.

Finally, please can you confirm he will be able to play his basic games such as roblox and minecraft as well as well as more advanced games otherwise i am in big trouble :cry: Also that he will be able to do his homework, use windows as normal etc etc

Thanks to Craig and Joxeon as well. I think I would like to get the computer from from Overclockers if possible.

Sorry for my lack of knowledge
& thank you for sharing all of yours

Peter;);)
 
Hello Again

Thank you to all of you again for your help and advice. My head is aching :cry: but your patience and advice is invaluable to a non computer person like me.
Craig I would love to build it, but my son wants it for his 18th not his 30th birthday:cry:. No I am better leaving this to the experts.

I think with all your help I am nearly there. I have tweaked the original spec from Haz123 that everyone seems to agree on to include some minor advised upgrades. I don not know what the majority of things are on the configurator so I am 100% reliant on your expertise. I have added a light box. Anyone got any views on these? Would it be better to fill with fans as on some of your own builds. I like all of your builds and the big screens to view them on. Can you change colours etc.

Do you think case is right size or should it be bigger? The lan li cases all look similar. Do I need to fill the case up so it does no look bare? But want it to look smart as well.

I like the tubes in Haz123's own build. Is this expensive ?? Would it work with this set up?

Is there anything I need to add so when it comes out of the box it work?:cry: Is it worth upgrading to windows 11?

Is there anything else to be tweaked or upgraded to make this even more special in your opinions as you have created this build for my son;)

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ocuk...R3Z79caFi3W:.caGe3WyzcaIR3X*vcaJf3X'vcaJA3X_v

Thank you all again for your continued help.

Peter
 
I am sorry

I have had trouble saving this configuration. I have even spoken to overclockers and they has sent me the previous link I posted

Hope this works

;)



My basket at Overclockers UK:
  • 1 x OcUK Tech Labs AMD Ryzen 3rd Gen Pro Gaming Configurator = £2,666.76
    • CPU:AMD Ryzen 7 5800X Eight Core 4.7GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail
    • Motherboard:MSI MAG X570S Tomahawk MAX WiFi (AMD AM4) DDR4 X570S ATX Motherboard
    • CPU Cooler:EK Water Blocks EK-AIO 360 D-RGB All In One CPU Water Cooler - 360mm
    • Memory:Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO Black 32GB (2x16GB) 3600MHz AMD Ryzen Tuned DDR4 Memory Dual Kit
    • M.2 Solid State Drive 1 (Primary Drive If Selected):WD Black SN850 1TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS100T1X0E)
    • M.2 Solid State Drive 2:Unwanted
    • 2.5" SATA Solid State Drive 1:Unwanted
    • 2.5" SATA Solid State Drive 2:Unwanted
    • Mechanical Hard Drive 1:Seagate BarraCuda 2TB 7200RPM 256MB Cache Hard Drive - *System Stock*
    • Mechanical Hard Drive 2:Unwanted
    • Power Supply:Corsair RMx Series RM850x 80 PLUS Gold Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
    • Soundcard:Unwanted
    • Network Adapter:Unwanted
    • Case Lighting:TechForge RGB lightbox for Lian-Li PC-011 Dynamic
    • Operating System:Microsoft Windows 10 Home Advanced - Systems
    • Security Software:Unwanted
    • Build Time:Standard Build Systems - Dispatched in approx 10-15 working days
    • Gaming Chair:Unwanted
    • Gaming Desk:Unwanted
    • Cases:Lian-Li PC-O11 Dynamic Midi-Tower - White Window
    • Graphics Card:Asus GeForce RTX 3070 Ti TUF OC 8GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card
    • Headset:Unwanted
    • Mouse:Unwanted
    • Keyboard:Unwanted
    • Speakers:Unwanted
    • Monitors:Unwanted
Total: £2,680.86 (includes shipping: £14.10)​
​
;)
 
I have also been watching videos of lan Li boxes and they fit rads on some of them. Would I need them?
Would six fans or more if needed be better for the computer and what configuration is best Once again relying to your advice here.
I will speak to overclockers very nicely and ask them to fit them:cry: if you advise this is better than getting a light box

Thanks again
 
Hello Haz123 and Craig d1

Thank you for your continued posts with information and advice.
They are all greatly appreciated and especially the detail. I really do appreciate your time and effort. Thank you

Can I clarify with you just a few things as I want to make sure I am getting this right.

1) Haz123 changed your original spec to include this component below as per one of your earlier posts. Did I make a big enough
change. Is this good enough will it suit build. I also added light box but I think I will drop that now.
M.2 Solid StIate Drive 1 (Primary Drive If Selected):WD Black SN850 1TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS100T1X0E)

2) I am not tied to the lian li but they do look nice and get good reviews. I just want to make sure its the right size for what is going in it so it does not look like an empty metal box. I do not want to keep changing things and driving you all mad either :eek:

3) Haz123 Will overclockers get over this issue below or would it be better to change case?

MZHOU SATA USB 3.0 Motherboard Front 19 Pin Male to Female Extension Cable - OCUK do not sell these afaik, I got mine from the Rainforest website. This is only needed if you get an O11 Dynamic and put fans on the base of the case. This will allow the front USB A ports to be connected.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/kolink-argb-1-2-splitter-cable-30cm-ca-05h-kk.html - Depending on what fans you go for you may need some splitter cables like that one. Hopefully we can tell you what you require once you have decided on the fans.



4) Will the current build and components with some added fans suit box? I would like it to look nice and a bit wow if possible. If it looks like some of
the examples you have sent they look pretty cool;)

4) As I said I think I will drop light box and fill with fans. Hmmm which fans to many choices:D

From the videos you posted and like Craig advises maybe three on bottom and top and three standing up. This should hopefully make case look better and a bit wow.
But which ones !!! Going to have another think abut this tomorrow.

Many thanks again, all advice welcome and appreciated. Sorry if i keep asking basic stuff
Peter
 
Hello Haz123, Craig and everyone

Thanks for continued posts.

Sorry Craig I didnt see that new spec you put up last night. Thank you

I am open to any option, but I have to say the case is not as nice. Its ok but does not look wow and they say its a budget case. Maybe it needs more fans to light it up to look better. I have looked at loads of cases and reviews today,

Phantrks Enthoo Evolution seems ok
Corsair odsidan
Corsair 57ox seems to review well
Phanteks 500 reviews saying noisy if fans on high
Fractal design meshify 2
to name a few

I still think the lan li looks best in pictures and videos I have seen so far.

I think a AIO build is imperative. I am not confident in having to change any bits and your saying with the rapier this maybe needed. I need overclockers to send it to me ready to go.

Do we go back to original spec or is there any other AIO options. I thought this would be very straight forward, look at one and say that is it and order it. That shows my lack of knowledge.

Thank you again for your time and patience.
Peter
 
Hello Again

I have looked at so many computers today my eyes are popping out:eek:

I looked on other websites, saw one or two that are interesting including a corsair one pre built. Looks nice and gets good reviews. I did not want post as its a competitor.
I don't know if spec is as good as what you lads have recommended,

Have seen this one on overclockers which looks nice, but its intel and I would much prefer to stick to your specs.

▷ OcUK Gaming Glacier - Gigabyte Vision, RTX 30… | OcUK (overclockers.co.uk)

Not totally discounting the cheaper link that you advised the the 360 case as you said its good value for money.

May call overclockers tomorrow and speak to them.

Please let me know if you see any other deals.

Thanks Again

Peter
 
Hello Everyone

I hope you are feeling better today Craig

Thank you Haz123 for your new post

Looking at your set up there, that looks very similar to the Corsair one I was looking at yesterday. Yours has more fans. I really like the cool white. Can I post just the spec of the one I have seen without any advertising so you can see it and ask overclockers to quote?

Thanks Again
Peter
 
Hello Again

I have just spoken to Overclockers and they have said that the build cost would be £100-200. They can add extra fans at a cost of £10 per fan

I have also asked about cases and I can add any case that is not in the configurator. Maybe that is the same for components as well?

They said I could have a lian li dynamic with the rapier spec for example.

Does this change your ideas now I can choose fans and they will fit them and any case? If the computer works out a little more expensive than I will stretch as its a long term purchase.

My sons birthday is the 12th of December. But he knows it could come a little bit after his birthday because its so near Christmas and companies get busy.

Craig can I ask how much the components roughly cost for your build?

Thanks

Peter
 
I am going to post this spec of the corsair build computer I saw yesterday for your comments.

I now think it would be between this (get it built by overclockers), Craigs build or get something built in the lian li on your recommended specs and extra fans added by oveclockers

ore Count 8 Cores
Memory Technology DDR4
Memory Size 16 GB
Processor Model AMD Ryzen 7
Memory Speed 3600 MHz
Colour Black
Processor + Core Count AMD Ryzen 7 5800X Eight Core (3.8GHz, turbo to 4.7GHz, 36MB cache)
Memory 32GB Corsair Vengence RGB PRO SL DDR4 3600MHz
Graphics GeForce RTX 3070 Ti
Solid State Drive 1TB M.2 NVMe SSD (Corsair Force MP600 1TB M.2 2280 PCIE 4.0 NVME SSD)
Hard Drive 1TB HDD (Seagate BarraCuda)
Operating System Windows 10 Home
Network Card Realtek® 8125B 2.5Gbps LAN
Wireless LAN Intel® Wi-Fi 6 AX200
Bluetooth Bluetooth 5.1
Sound 7.1 Channel Chipset integrated by Realtek® ALC1200
Power Supply Corsair RM850 850W 80 PLUS Gold Fully Modular PSU Power Supply
Dimensions 520mm x 245mm x 520mm
Chipset AMD X570
Featured Brands Featuring MSI & Corsair
Processor Cooler Corsair ICUE H150i Elite Capellix RGB 360mm Liquid CPU Cooler
Motherboard MSI MAG X570 Tomahawk WIFI Motherboard
Motherboard Form Factor ATX
Case Corsair ICUE 5000X RGB Tempered Glass Gaming Case with SP120 RGB Elite Fans


Your advice would be really apreciated.

Thanks

Peter
 
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