new gaming pc help

I didn't mean to start an argument about it. I see a lot of 'leet performance for £500' rigs, with overpowered gpu and cpu along with relatively low spec components. You could take the same cpu and gpu, put it in your main rig, and you'd worry about the temperature. They're not suddenly cooler coz they're in a cheaper rig.
 
billysielu said:
I didn't mean to start an argument about it. I see a lot of 'leet performance for £500' rigs, with overpowered gpu and cpu along with relatively low spec components. You could take the same cpu and gpu, put it in your main rig, and you'd worry about the temperature. They're not suddenly cooler coz they're in a cheaper rig.
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fair point - Out of curiousity, what cases do you recommend then, that don't break the bank but provide adequate cooling?
 
Ive found a price for this PC thats already been built for £533 delivered. How does it compare to the one suggested above? Id like to get one thats already built cos of the 1yr warranty. Ive looked at the ready built pcs here like the Titan Sabre" AMD Phenom II X2 Dual Core 550 Black Edition 3.10GHz @ 3.30GHz DDR2 System. But im not sure if its worth getting the X3 or X2

AMD Phenom X4

Computer Case Black & Silver ATX Tower Case
CPU AMD Phenom II X3 720 (3 x 2.8 GHz) 6MB - Black Edition
Motherboard Asus M4A78T-E (AMD 790GX) AM3 DDR3
Memory Corsair 4GB XMS3 PC3-10666 1333MHz (2x2GB) - Lifetime Warranty CAS 9 (DDR3)
Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 4890 - 1 GB - 2xDVI/VGA (XFX)
Power Supply 450W PSU
Hard Drive 1 500 GB SATA-II HDD UDMA 300 7200 16MB
Optical Drive 1 Samsung (S222A) DVD PLUS/-RW 22x Dual Layer - Black (IDE)
Sound Card Motherboard Integrated 5.1 Sound
Networking Motherboard Integrated Ethernet Lan (Broadband Ready)
USB Ports 4 X USB 2.0 Ports
CPU Heatsink AMD Heatsink & Fan - Low Noise
Security Software No Security Software Included
Backup Solution Standard Operating System Backup
 
aj1soad said:
Ive found a price for this PC thats already been built for £533 delivered. How does it compare to the one suggested above? Id like to get one thats already built cos of the 1yr warranty. Ive looked at the ready built pcs here like the Titan Sabre" AMD Phenom II X2 Dual Core 550 Black Edition 3.10GHz @ 3.30GHz DDR2 System. But im not sure if its worth getting the X3 or X2

AMD Phenom X4

Computer Case Black & Silver ATX Tower Case
CPU AMD Phenom II X3 720 (3 x 2.8 GHz) 6MB - Black Edition
Motherboard Asus M4A78T-E (AMD 790GX) AM3 DDR3
Memory Corsair 4GB XMS3 PC3-10666 1333MHz (2x2GB) - Lifetime Warranty CAS 9 (DDR3)
Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 4890 - 1 GB - 2xDVI/VGA (XFX)
Power Supply 450W PSU
Hard Drive 1 500 GB SATA-II HDD UDMA 300 7200 16MB
Optical Drive 1 Samsung (S222A) DVD PLUS/-RW 22x Dual Layer - Black (IDE)
Sound Card Motherboard Integrated 5.1 Sound
Networking Motherboard Integrated Ethernet Lan (Broadband Ready)
USB Ports 4 X USB 2.0 Ports
CPU Heatsink AMD Heatsink & Fan - Low Noise
Security Software No Security Software Included
Backup Solution Standard Operating System Backup
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For what you need that slightly overclocked dual will be absolutely fine and then whenever you need the extra power you can just drop in a quad. I've heard that amd are bringing out some nice high clocked quads for am3 so you could be looking at very good upgradability when you need it.
 
LittleChimp said:
95thrifles spec is good but if your not keen on building yourself the prebuilt spec you posted seems fine too.
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+1 for this, except check if the power supply with the pre built is a decent brand like seasonic/corsair etc otherwise powering stuff like the pii 955 and a 4890 on a 450w budget psu is not a good idea, i'd always go with a well trusted brand psu otherwise you could end up blowing your entire system from a cheap psu going bang.
 
Namak said:
fair point - Out of curiousity, what cases do you recommend then, that don't break the bank but provide adequate cooling?
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The most important point here is that cases don't break. Everything in your PC can break, die, whatever. But unless you set it on fire, you'll be able to re-use your case. Until there's some new form-factor etc anyway. Buying a solid case will take care of your PC now, and the one after that, and maybe the one after that too.

If I was going to build a PC for myself today, I would get an Antec 1200. At £137.99 inc VAT they're not particularly cost-effective, so considering some cheaper options...

The Coolermaster HAF. Fantastic airflow for £94.99 inc VAT.

The Antec 902. Fantastic airflow for £92.99 inc VAT.

I really wouldn't go lower than that. You can trash everything by getting the cooling solution wrong, don't be a cheapass :)
 
Namak said:
Why? That is a very good case for the money and spending more would mean sacrificing on components.

Also an aftermarket is only required if looking to overclock.
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Or for sound...

Product Name Qty Price Line Total
XFX ATI Radeon HD 4870 512MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £92.99
(£80.86) £92.99
(£80.86)
AMD Phenom II X2 Dual Core 550 3.10GHz Black Edition (Socket AM3) - Retail £77.99
(£67.82) £77.99
(£67.82)
Asus M4A785TD-V Evo AMD 785G (Socket AM3) PCI-Express DDR3 Motherboard £70.99
(£61.73) £70.99
(£61.73)
OCZ ModXStream Pro 600w Silent SLI Ready Modular Power Supply £64.99
(£56.51) £64.99
(£56.51)
Western Digital Caviar Black 640GB SATA-II 32MB Cache - OEM (WD6401AALS) £52.99
(£46.08) £52.99
(£46.08)
NZXT BETA Classic Series Case - Black (No PSU) £45.99
(£39.99) £45.99
(£39.99)
OcUK Value 2GB (1x2GB) DDR3 10666C9 1333MHz Memory Module (AD31333002GMU) £26.99
(£23.47) £53.98
(£46.94)
Sony Optiarc AD-7240S 24x DVD±RW SATA Dual Layer ReWriter (Black) - OEM £18.99
(£16.51) £18.99
(£16.51)
Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro PWM CPU Cooler (Socket 754/939/940/AM2) £17.24
(£14.99) £17.24
(£14.99)
Sub Total : £431.43
Shipping cost assumes delivery to UK Mainland with:
DPD Next Day Parcel
(This can be changed during checkout) Shipping : £12.50
VAT is being charged at 15% VAT : £66.59
Total : £510.52
 
only reason i wanted a pre built one was incase something went wrong like the power supply damaging the motherboard. if i had a pre built one it has a 1yr warranty.
Am i better off going for the X3 then for gaming?
 
That would only happen if you had a rubbish PSU Model, which OCUK don't even sell. Or a faulty one, in which case you would RMA it. The CPU doesn't have much impact on gaming, the GPU is a far bigger factor. Seriously, this is an example:

E2140 + 8400GS in TF2 with all settings on maximum i got 15-20fps
E2140 + X1950 Pro in TF2 with all settings on maximum i get 50-60fps

Both times everything was at stock, even the cooling. I'd suggest getting the dual core and putting the money towards a better GPU. I'd suggest waiting for DX11 though. With the right motherboard and a bit of luck you can unlock one or two cores of the 550 (or the 545) to make it a tri or quad core anyway.
 
Product Name Qty Price Line Total
XFX ATI Radeon HD 4890 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £135.99
(£118.25) £135.99
(£118.25)
AMD Phenom II X2 Dual Core 550 3.10GHz Black Edition (Socket AM3) - Retail £77.99
(£67.82) £77.99
(£67.82)
G.Skill Ripjaw 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C7 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (F3-12800CL7D-4GBRH) £73.99
(£64.34) £73.99
(£64.34)
Asus M4A785TD-V Evo AMD 785G (Socket AM3) PCI-Express DDR3 Motherboard £70.99
(£61.73) £70.99
(£61.73)
Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB SATA-II 32MB Cache - OEM (WD5001AALS) £43.99
(£38.25) £43.99
(£38.25)
OCZ StealthXStream 400w Silent Power Supply £30.99
(£26.95) £30.99
(£26.95)
Coolermaster Elite 335 Case - Black (No PSU) £28.99
(£25.21) £28.99
(£25.21)
Sony Optiarc AD-7240S 24x DVD±RW SATA Dual Layer ReWriter (Black) - OEM £18.99
(£16.51) £18.99
(£16.51)
Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro PWM CPU Cooler (Socket 754/939/940/AM2) £17.24
(£14.99) £17.24
(£14.99)
Sub Total : £434.05
Shipping cost assumes delivery to UK Mainland with:
DPD Next Day Parcel
(This can be changed during checkout) Shipping : £11.75
VAT is being charged at 15% VAT : £66.87
Total : £512.67
 
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