New kitchen query - hob depth/width

Tacitus · 7 Apr 2019 at 22:09

Evening all

I'm getting a new kitchen next month. I'm getting an integrated gas hob installed in a 60cm wide base unit, with 60cm base units at either side. Each side unit will have drawers at the top.

Looking at my options for gas burners, I've found a couple that I like. One is 90cm wide and requires an 85cm hole cut in the work top. It's also 4.5cm deep, whereas my worktops are to be 3.8cm deep.

Will this interfere with my drawers at either side making the design not workable?

The alternative is a 75cm wide hob which requires a 56cm hole cut in the worktop, so should fit, but I would like the 90cm hob if possible.

My final question relates to the oven, which is going directly beneath the hob. The kitchen planner guy suggested we did not need a 10cm false drawer between the hob and oven, so instead our plan shows a 20cm drawer beneath the oven and nothing between the oven and the bottom of the worktop. If my hob is 4.5cm deep and my work top is 3.8cm deep, will this create a problem? He is not privy to which oven/hob we are getting as we are not buying them from him.

Thanks in advance

Chris

jpaul · 7 Apr 2019 at 23:40

Tacitus said:
Will this interfere with my drawers at either side making the design not workable?

will probably interfere, the gas and electricity supply connections, if nothing else, but,
look up the pdf documents for the installation requirements/clearances/protection for the new hob .? and the oven

or, post the new hob / oven model #'s ?

SimonR · 7 Apr 2019 at 23:47

Yes I think that your hob will foul the drawers in the units at either side. I have just fitted a 90cm Bosch hob and it needed a 90cm base unit. Mine had pan drawers beneath it. Without seeing your oven dimensions it’s hard to say whether the hob will foul it or not, although most ovens should be ok.

area51 · 8 Apr 2019 at 23:51

Single or double oven? doubles come up wider and often deeper.
Gas supply will be at the back of it where port is on burners Cable is only for ingnitor so only a normal cable which runs to a 3 pin plug.

Unit draws on either side don't run to the top in general the side only go halfway up on draws so room many run really wide hobs with big wok burner in middle.

But gas will be going out in private residences in the next few years so won't be any boilers/cookers heating will be by heat pump exchangers and hobs will be infra red.

jpaul · 9 Apr 2019 at 07:35

area51 said:
and hobs will be infra red.

is there a new tech in the wings ? induction/halogen don't cut it, with limited power output, for wokking, anyway.

rumours of gas's ~~my death~~ have been much exaggerated

Tacitus · 9 Apr 2019 at 17:35

Hi everyone

Thanks for your thoughts. The oven is this one: https://www.johnlewis.com/neff-b3ac...built-in-single-oven-stainless-steel/p3436384

The hob I would ideally like is this one: https://www.johnlewis.com/neff-t29ds69n0-gas-hob-stainless-steel/p3275184

I had mostly thought the issue might be that the sides of the base unit would need cut away to accommodate the hob, and that it would hit the drawers. That said, my old flat did have a gas hob which recessed into the worktop (so the pan supports were at the same level as the worktop) and it had a working drawer under the hob. Not sure where that kitchen was from though as I rented that flat.

Thanks

Chris

SimonR · 9 Apr 2019 at 18:37

Gas heating won’t be going into new builds (allegedly) nothing stopping it being retrofitted. Plus the millions of properties with gas are not suddenly going to stop working. Builders will still install meters and will leave them unconnected. Unless airsource heatpumps suddenly become a lot more efficient (their COP is still lower than a gas boiler) or builders want to sink boreholes for groundsource heatpumps, I cant see the gas ban happening. Another politicians dream.

Tacitus · 9 Apr 2019 at 19:09

SimonR said:
Gas heating won’t be going into new builds (allegedly) nothing stopping it being retrofitted. Plus the millions of properties with gas are not suddenly going to stop working. Builders will still install meters and will leave them unconnected. Unless airsource heatpumps suddenly become a lot more efficient (their COP is still lower than a gas boiler) or builders want to sink boreholes for groundsource heatpumps, I cant see the gas ban happening. Another politicians dream.

I certainly hope not since I live in a Victorian tenement flat and don't fancy the costs of ripping the gas out to replace it with something else.

Plus I hate cooking on anything other than a gas hob.

jpaul · 9 Apr 2019 at 21:37

Tacitus said:
The hob I would ideally like is this one: https://www.johnlewis.com/neff-t29ds69n0-gas-hob-stainless-steel/p3275184

https://media3.neff-international.com/Documents/9001145412_H.pdf
diagram suggests that, including a protective panel beneath hob, adjacent draw should be minimum of 80mm from worksurface top, so would need to see if draw could accomodate that. ... the diagram is pretty rubbish though.

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SimonR said:
Gas heating won’t be going into new builds (allegedly)

as you say allegedly .. its only a proposal to bre shot down, and moreover says nothing specific about proposed hob type.
https://www.theccc.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/UK-housing-Fit-for-the-future-CCC-2019.pdf
eveyone should eat ready meals, let's ask claire perry MP ... and they wonder why the public ridicule them - incompetent
feed-in-tarif, the northern ireland renewable heat incentive, nuclear generation ... the list goes on
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