New memory problem

Boozebeard · 20 Apr 2010 at 15:54

I have this mother board. I bought this ram (not from oc), it arrived today. I know my mobo only supports upto 1333mhz speeds but I thought I would just simply be able to set the memory divider lower, however I can't even get it to post. I tried each stick seperatley but no luck.

Is there anything I could try to get it to work or should I just see if I can return it?

kerrgreg · 20 Apr 2010 at 22:01

Have you tried doing a CMOS reset?

Boozebeard · 20 Apr 2010 at 23:18

No, how exactly do I do that? Something to do with jumpers?

DavieJG · 20 Apr 2010 at 23:21

yeah u can use a jumper (see manual)

alternatively, whip the battery out for around 30mins will also do the job

Boozebeard · 20 Apr 2010 at 23:24

Alright I'll try that tomorrow. I take it this means the ram should theoretically be able to work with my board? I figured I had just been stupid and bought incompatible stuff.

Higadeb · 20 Apr 2010 at 23:28

I would have thought you wouldn't have had any issues unless the RAM is set to run at 1600MHz by default which I highly doubt. Otherwise the RAM should default to 800/1066 depeding on the Processor

Boozebeard · 20 Apr 2010 at 23:30

Ok well atleast I'm not an Idiot. Silver lining and all.

Higadeb · 20 Apr 2010 at 23:41

Boozebeard said:
Ok well atleast I'm not an Idiot. Silver lining and all.

Haha, I wouldn't say that just yet. I could easilly be being an idiot, it is a reknowned happening!
But seriously, I would be suprised if you couldn't get that to work!

Boozebeard · 21 Apr 2010 at 14:07

Shorting the cmos worked. Got the ram working and can boot into windows fine.

Got another problem now. When I start up I get the usual mobo screen with options for boot devices and accessing the bios. However after that it takes me to another screen that says something like "mac address not valid in cmos or flash". Now my wifi is constantly stuck on "authenticating" and my lan connection wont even show up at all.

I'm gonna try flashing the bios.

Boozebeard · 21 Apr 2010 at 16:04

I'm not getting the message at bootup anymore but I still can't connect to my wifi and ethernet doesn't even come up as a connection option

Higadeb · 21 Apr 2010 at 16:12

Few, glad you got the ram working

What speed does it say it's running at?
The ethernet may not come up untill you install the drivers from the mobo disk. Make sure you have everything installed first and then try again.

Boozebeard · 21 Apr 2010 at 16:14

Well the drivers on the cd are only for vista and xp. I'm trying to find the right ones on the realtek website but I have no idea what I'm looking for.

Higadeb · 21 Apr 2010 at 16:27

Have a look here

Edit: Actually, download this as a temp solution and then update the driver via device manager

Boozebeard · 21 Apr 2010 at 16:35

I'm pretty sure I busted the board somehow. It's not that the lan isn't working it's that it doesn't exist. It's not in the device manager or anything. And seeing as i need the lan enabled in the bios to enable the wifi thats probably why that isn't working either.

I can't use that driver you linked. I'm on win 7.

I downloaded drivers for the lan but it wont install them because it can't detect the hardware.

Higadeb · 21 Apr 2010 at 16:58

I was planning on you using the vista one as a temp solution so you could upgrade to the win7 ones via device manager.
But given that nothing is showing up in device manager that's a bit of an issue. If it's a board which comes with wifi check if it uses a pcie or integrated. if pcie check the card is properly secure/inserted

Boozebeard · 21 Apr 2010 at 17:04

Higadeb said:
I was planning on you using the vista one as a temp solution so you could upgrade to the win7 ones via device manager.
But given that nothing is showing up in device manager that's a bit of an issue. If it's a board which comes with wifi check if it uses a pcie or integrated. if pcie check the card is properly secure/inserted

It's intergrated and it wont even let me use the vista driver it gives me an error telling me im not running a supported os when I try and install.

However I am right now sending this from the PC in question. I installed the wifi connector that comes with my router instead of using the mobos one and it's working. Need to figure out whats wronf with the mobo though because i find my wireless isn't really suitable for gaming at all and usually use ethernet.

Edit: Ok, now my built in wifi is working all of a sudden. Just need to get the ethernet connection to even show up!

Boozebeard · 21 Apr 2010 at 17:38

Alright well forget the network for now. Back to the ram

I have left the bios settings for it at auto at the moment because I am confused about the manual settings.

When I change it to manual i get predefined timmings i can pick.

This ram is rated at 7-8-7-24

However the maximum options available to me are only 9-6-6-15 :S

Well specifically the first settings i get options "5-9" and the next 2 I get the options " 3-6 DRAM CLOCKS" and then "9-15 DRAM CLOCKS" note how the first option doesn't have DRAM CLOCKS on the end. Any ideas?

Higadeb · 21 Apr 2010 at 18:18

The values you've quoted above sound like latencies for DDR2 RAM. Have a check using CPU-z that the RAM is recognized as DDR3 and see what timings it is running at.

Boozebeard · 21 Apr 2010 at 20:11

It is being picked up as DDR3 but it's running it at 6-6-6-15.

What shall I do. I can't imagine it's safe running them at that speed although im running them underclocked to 800 effective at the mo.

Edit:

Ok i set the ram to 1333 but left the timings at auto and now it looks like this

So it's raised the timings to above their specced speed. Not being able to set them myself is gonna cause troubles ocing though

Pretty stupid that I can't set them that high manually.

Higadeb · 21 Apr 2010 at 23:37

Hmm, C9 isn't that bad. But isn't brilliant.
Check you have the latest BIOS updates installed, they may have released a new one with extra DDR3 support,
http://www.asrock.com/mb/download.asp?Model=4Core1600P35-WiFi&o=BIOS