Yeah, I'm pretty sure they would sort that. They've always been pretty good with stuff like that in the past.
New Monitor needed ~£200? NOW UPPED TO £300!
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure they would sort that. They've always been pretty good with stuff like that in the past.
So, just turned the pc on to start the returns process and immediately noticed where there had previously been a stuck blue pixel there now was............NONE!!
Time to get messing with the settings!!
Edit:damn stuck pixel is back again
seems once the screen has been on a while it gets 'stuck' which is a bit weird. Anywho, other than that I love it!
Time to get messing with the settings!!
Edit:damn stuck pixel is back again
seems once the screen has been on a while it gets 'stuck' which is a bit weird. Anywho, other than that I love it!
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I had one arrive on Friday too (LG 24GM79G-B).
Summary: Very good gaming screen for a little over £200 and a reasonable desktop screen.
Wall of text review time...
No stuck/dead pixels or sub-pixels that I can see.
It's a slightly brighter at the bottom-left/bottom which reduces contrast in that area a little. Not sure that I'd refer to it as bleed, more just slightly uneven brightness.
Fill the screen with a flat mid-shade/colour and you see some more unevenness in brightness here and there. Not obvious otherwise, our Samsung VA TV is similar/worse.
Quite high-contrast for a TFT panel, but still shares the limitations of that technology.
Colours very good once you install the ICC colour profile from the supplied disc and drop brightness to 30-40 from default 70.
Could barely distinguish windows yellow folder icons from the white explorer background prior to this.
TFT Panel is 6bit + FRC so while colours can be quite vivid, you get the sense they're not always quite what you should be seeing.
Even once (eye) calibrated, I still feel there is some detail missing from photos, particularly in shadows/dark content.
Probably wouldn't get much better without going to IPS or VA, unless there are high-refresh 8-bit TFT panels out there.
The Viewsonic XG2401/2402 is the one which does have a slight edge in colour handling going by reviews, though IIRC that is still 6 bit + FRC (same panel?).
The pre-defined FPS/RTS gaming modes use extreme settings which give garish results. I won't ever use these.
Would be nice if you could re-define the three panel buttons assigned to these settings, eg assign one to strobe on/off.
Use the two custom modes instead, gaming / non-gaming. Not sure difference yet (probably reduced processing time?).
Both give access to game settings, but the game-specific mode greys-out three display settings (probably to drop processing time):
Super-resolution+ (a second artifical sharpening function which is best off anyway).
Black level - locked at "high" (brighter/lower-contrast) in gaming mode (not sure if this is HDMI specific or not).
DFC - looks like a dynamic brightness function (don't notice much difference with it / best off anyway).
Driving it via HDMI from an older card so can't test freesync / displayport / 120/144hz refresh yet.
Panel response best set to normal.
Fast gives obvious dark/inverse ghost image behind moving object (eg windows cursor).
Slow or off gives the usual TFT ghost trails.
Black stabiliser - gaming slider setting brightens dark scenes to help you see your foe (reduces contrast, so I have it disabled).
Non-gaming custom mode allows pretty full control available over colour handling, down to six hue and saturation sliders for RGB and CMY.
It looks OK to me at the defaults for these anyway.
1ms motion blur reduction (backlight strobe function):
Drops contrast quite a bit so can be hit/miss depending on how you'd like your game or video to look as the result is more washed-out.
Also introduces some faint noise in thin vertical bands/stripes, but these aren't very obvious. I only noticed them in dark in-game scenes while looking closely.
Clarity of motion is definitely greatly improved however, particularly so at higher refresh rates.
I can actually make out text detail clearly when dragging a window with the strobe enabled whilst refreshing at 100Hz. Its pretty close to high-refresh CRT.
Try this at 100Hz with the strobe disabled and whilst you can just about see the moving characters, they're still ghosted and very hard to read.
Enabling/disabling the strobe seems to enable/disable it for both gaming and non-gaming custom modes.
Bit annoying as I'd like to be able to use the two custom buttons to switch between strobed custom game mode for games and non-strobed custom mode for better contrast on the desktop.
As it is, you need to go into the menu(s) to enable/disable strobing.
Looking forward to driving it at 120/144Hz from a modern card once Freesync GPU prices re-attain a sane level, if ever.
Driven from HDMI, the non-gaming custom mode allows you to set the black level to "low" while strobe is enabled which offsets some of the contrast reduction when strobing is enabled in game custom mode.
Have not noticed an increased processing delay in non-gaming mode yet, so the trade-off in terms of better contrast might be worthwhile.
This may not even be an issue when driven over displayport.
Not yet spotted a way to have it show the current display mode/refresh or any other detailed information about the device.
Reasonably well put-together from decent materials.
Sharp-ish edges on the plastic of the base and on the sides of the screen where the plastic back cover meets the bezel.
Height control is smooth but slightly stiff at the top of its travel.
Stand a little wobbly when handling screen, but otherwise stable.
Inner face of bezel is smooth so can reflect bright on-screen features near the panels edge (not a major issue).
Mini-joystick menu controller works quite well, initially my example was clicking a second or so after pressing it as if something in the assembly was re-seating itself but this seems to have stopped after a bit of use.
Summary: Very good gaming screen for a little over £200 and a reasonable desktop screen.
Wall of text review time...
No stuck/dead pixels or sub-pixels that I can see.
It's a slightly brighter at the bottom-left/bottom which reduces contrast in that area a little. Not sure that I'd refer to it as bleed, more just slightly uneven brightness.
Fill the screen with a flat mid-shade/colour and you see some more unevenness in brightness here and there. Not obvious otherwise, our Samsung VA TV is similar/worse.
Quite high-contrast for a TFT panel, but still shares the limitations of that technology.
Colours very good once you install the ICC colour profile from the supplied disc and drop brightness to 30-40 from default 70.
Could barely distinguish windows yellow folder icons from the white explorer background prior to this.
TFT Panel is 6bit + FRC so while colours can be quite vivid, you get the sense they're not always quite what you should be seeing.
Even once (eye) calibrated, I still feel there is some detail missing from photos, particularly in shadows/dark content.
Probably wouldn't get much better without going to IPS or VA, unless there are high-refresh 8-bit TFT panels out there.
The Viewsonic XG2401/2402 is the one which does have a slight edge in colour handling going by reviews, though IIRC that is still 6 bit + FRC (same panel?).
The pre-defined FPS/RTS gaming modes use extreme settings which give garish results. I won't ever use these.
Would be nice if you could re-define the three panel buttons assigned to these settings, eg assign one to strobe on/off.
Use the two custom modes instead, gaming / non-gaming. Not sure difference yet (probably reduced processing time?).
Both give access to game settings, but the game-specific mode greys-out three display settings (probably to drop processing time):
Super-resolution+ (a second artifical sharpening function which is best off anyway).
Black level - locked at "high" (brighter/lower-contrast) in gaming mode (not sure if this is HDMI specific or not).
DFC - looks like a dynamic brightness function (don't notice much difference with it / best off anyway).
Driving it via HDMI from an older card so can't test freesync / displayport / 120/144hz refresh yet.
Panel response best set to normal.
Fast gives obvious dark/inverse ghost image behind moving object (eg windows cursor).
Slow or off gives the usual TFT ghost trails.
Black stabiliser - gaming slider setting brightens dark scenes to help you see your foe (reduces contrast, so I have it disabled).
Non-gaming custom mode allows pretty full control available over colour handling, down to six hue and saturation sliders for RGB and CMY.
It looks OK to me at the defaults for these anyway.
1ms motion blur reduction (backlight strobe function):
Drops contrast quite a bit so can be hit/miss depending on how you'd like your game or video to look as the result is more washed-out.
Also introduces some faint noise in thin vertical bands/stripes, but these aren't very obvious. I only noticed them in dark in-game scenes while looking closely.
Clarity of motion is definitely greatly improved however, particularly so at higher refresh rates.
I can actually make out text detail clearly when dragging a window with the strobe enabled whilst refreshing at 100Hz. Its pretty close to high-refresh CRT.
Try this at 100Hz with the strobe disabled and whilst you can just about see the moving characters, they're still ghosted and very hard to read.
Enabling/disabling the strobe seems to enable/disable it for both gaming and non-gaming custom modes.
Bit annoying as I'd like to be able to use the two custom buttons to switch between strobed custom game mode for games and non-strobed custom mode for better contrast on the desktop.
As it is, you need to go into the menu(s) to enable/disable strobing.
Looking forward to driving it at 120/144Hz from a modern card once Freesync GPU prices re-attain a sane level, if ever.
Driven from HDMI, the non-gaming custom mode allows you to set the black level to "low" while strobe is enabled which offsets some of the contrast reduction when strobing is enabled in game custom mode.
Have not noticed an increased processing delay in non-gaming mode yet, so the trade-off in terms of better contrast might be worthwhile.
This may not even be an issue when driven over displayport.
Not yet spotted a way to have it show the current display mode/refresh or any other detailed information about the device.
Reasonably well put-together from decent materials.
Sharp-ish edges on the plastic of the base and on the sides of the screen where the plastic back cover meets the bezel.
Height control is smooth but slightly stiff at the top of its travel.
Stand a little wobbly when handling screen, but otherwise stable.
Inner face of bezel is smooth so can reflect bright on-screen features near the panels edge (not a major issue).
Mini-joystick menu controller works quite well, initially my example was clicking a second or so after pressing it as if something in the assembly was re-seating itself but this seems to have stopped after a bit of use.
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Thank you for the detailed write-up. Which GPU do you have currently?
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What GPU's are you looking at getting?
Edit:damn stuck pixel is back again
Bad news about the stuck pixel reappearing, particularly if its an obvious colour or in a prominent location on the screen.
The HP 1600x900 20inch thing I had been using prior to Friday had a dead pixel near the top left. Barely noticed it as it was fairly out of the way, black and looked more like a tiny speck of dust.
Not sure how I'd feel if this LG had any. Always the possibility that one or more may develop over time anyway.
Nothing in the immediate future, unless prices suddenly drop markedly.
Would have had a 6G 1060 long before now had it not been been for Nvidia's refusal to implement VESA variable sync support in their drivers.
8G RX580's still too expensive at the moment at almost £290.
Yea the bugger is right slap bang in my line of sight (well off to the right actually) and a lovely bright blue. Weird thing is if the monitor is left off for an hour or so it goes away, load up a game and it's back after 5 mins.
I'd live with it if it had developed after a few months or summat but not right out of the box. It would do my head in!!
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There was a Powercolor RX 580 8GB for 235 recently
quick question, where did you find that on the disc - no optical drive so just copied to a memstick but can't find that anywhere?!
Colour profile and simple installer program for it are in the display\DRIVERS\Installation folder.
You're not thinking of hanging on to it with that stuck pixel are you?
Was that one of the cards Gibbo had on offer recently? In any case, the cards available on the market in general are still overpriced by around £40-50. You'd hope that a sale/offer price would be lower still consequently.
No, I used it over the weekend and I couldn't cope! OcUK have been excellent about it, offered a discount if I wanted to hang on to it and when I didn't they matched the offer price from last week.
They even managed to get it out for dispatch today (Monday) even though it was way after their normal cut off point. Well impressed with them to be honest.
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Did you get a replacement, how is it?
Yea replacement arrived today. Not had time to test it properly yet but had it on for about half an hour and touch wood no signs of any stuck/dead pixels. going to give it a good going over tonight/ tomorrow
so I've had the monitor for a good few days now. @G550's review pretty well summed the monitor up. for the money it really is brilliant. I don't have a proper reference point as I was coming from a ~7 year old monitor but I have to say it really is glorious. anyone in the market for a ~£200 monitor should definitely consider the LG well worth the money. I'll post up the settings I settle on in a few day time - there are so many options it's a tad mind boggling for me at the minute and I keep changing/tinkering with them!
the only issue I've had so far, and this is likely nothing to do with the monitor is that windows sometimes 'forgets' to load the colour profile I've saved so I have to go into the monitor settings and click 'set as default' even though it already says it's the default! as I say though I'm pointing the finger at Win10 for that one rather than the monitor.
Sure thats not the monitor itself during warm-up from cold?
Mine starts overly bright then takes around 30-40 minutes to settle to the brightness level I'd set/calibrated it to when warm.
A little annoying, but just set one of the custom monitor presets to a lower brightness setting which you can use whilst warming-up and then swap over to the other after 30mins or so.
I tend to run it in strobed mode rather than non-strobed all the time (desktop and game) as the fluidity of motion is so much better, even in just desktop use.
The display has enough basic contrast and brightness to give a pretty vibrant picture in strobed mode. Just need to find the right gamma level in game settings to get it looking right.
Personally, I don't think I would consider purchasing any LCD monitor without some form of strobing going forward, unless it was to be used purely for static work.
I have 17 year old 19inch Sony E400 CRT sitting here, which still just about works if you coax it for a few minutes at switch on (power on/off repeatedly for a minute or so), but on the basis of the LG's performance I think the Sony will be permanently relegated to the loft or perhaps even the re-cycler's.
FWIW, the Sony always started very bright too and settled after a half-hour or so, though thats arguably more of a cost-saving/design flaw with Sony's FD Trinitron tubes of that era.
nah it's defo windows being special. I must do a fresh reinstall. this install has a few bugs (main gripe being it keeps forgetting to sync the system time up properly!)
haven't actually given the 'stobe' a proper try yet!