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[rorilogan]

Hi all,

I had a PC way back when I was a young adult, living life without responsibility.
I found a woman, got her pregnant, had a kid, bought a small house without space for a desk/pc so I sold the PC......
I've now bought a bought a bigger house and am typing this in my WFH office.

Point is, I'm ready to re-join the master race and need help with speccing up a machine.

Can someone help?
I really want to game in 4k and I'll want something that can handle most games at ultra tbh.
Those games will vary, from FPS such as Warzone, Battlefield to some MMORPG and city builder games etc.

Honestly, budget is kind of open as I really have no idea what's on the market now, I just recall GPU's being crazy expensive at one point, has that stopped now?

If you could provide this alongside a monitor, i'd be eternally grateful.

Yours faithfully,
Balding dad of a 3-year-old

 

[Tetras]

If you want 4K plus a 4K monitor you're looking at around 2K5 to 3K, is that realistic?

If it is, then we can go ahead with a spec.

 

[rorilogan]

If you want 4K plus a 4K monitor you're looking at around 2K5 to 3K, is that realistic?

If it is, then we can go ahead with a spec.

Yep.

Thanks

 

[Tetras]

Yep.

Here's a 2K5 Intel spec:

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x Intel Core i7-14700K (Raptor Lake-S) Socket LGA1700 Processor - Retail (SKU: PRO-INT-00800) = £399.95
• 1 x Gigabyte B760 GAMING X AX (LGA 1700) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MB-5BU-GI) = £174.99
• 1 x Kingston FURY Beast 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 PC5-44800C40 5600MHz Dual Channel Kit (SKU: MY-29H-KS) = £110.00
• 1 x Powercolor Radeon RX 7900 XT HellHound 20GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GX-1AR-PC) = £749.98
• 1 x Crucial P5 Plus 2TB M.2 2280 PCI-e 4.0 x4 3D NAND NVMe Solid State Drive (SKU: HD-075-CR) = £114.95
• 1 x Phanteks Eclipse P600S Silent Midi Tower Case - Black (SKU: CA-08V-PT) = £139.99
• 1 x Phanteks M25 140mm PWM High-Airflow Chassis Fan - Black (SKU: FG-033-PT) = £9.95
• 1 x MSI MPG A850G PCIE5 UK PSU 850W 80 Plus Gold Modular Power Supply (SKU: CA-00Y-MS) = £109.99

• 1 x NZXT Kraken 360 Black AIO CPU Water Cooler - 360mm (SKU: HS-02D-NX) = £159.95
• 1 x Microsoft Windows 11 Home 64-Bit DVD - OEM (KW9-00632) (SKU: SW-18J-MS) = £119.99

• 1 x LG 27" 27GR93U-B 3840x2160 IPS 144Hz 1ms FreeSync/G-Sync HDMI 2.1 Widescreen Gaming Monitor (SKU: MON-LGC-00587) = £499.99

Total: £2,589.73 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

You could get the peerless assassin instead of an AIO, which would save £100+. It just needs a little work to tame it if you run the CPU heavily multithreaded.

Cheaper cases are available which include enough stock fans, like Lian Li's 216 or Phanteks P400S.

If you plan on ray tracing, swap the 7900 XT to a 4070 Ti Super.

The 7900 XT is more of an entry-level 4K card at this point, so you might want to check reviews for the 4070 Super, 4070 Ti Super and 4080 Super, to see what kind of FPS you're looking at in the latest AAA games.

 

[rorilogan]

Here's a 2K5 Intel spec:

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x Intel Core i7-14700K (Raptor Lake-S) Socket LGA1700 Processor - Retail (SKU: PRO-INT-00800) = £399.95
• 1 x Gigabyte B760 GAMING X AX (LGA 1700) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MB-5BU-GI) = £174.99
• 1 x Kingston FURY Beast 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 PC5-44800C40 5600MHz Dual Channel Kit (SKU: MY-29H-KS) = £110.00
• 1 x Powercolor Radeon RX 7900 XT HellHound 20GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GX-1AR-PC) = £749.98
• 1 x Crucial P5 Plus 2TB M.2 2280 PCI-e 4.0 x4 3D NAND NVMe Solid State Drive (SKU: HD-075-CR) = £114.95
• 1 x Phanteks Eclipse P600S Silent Midi Tower Case - Black (SKU: CA-08V-PT) = £139.99
• 1 x Phanteks M25 140mm PWM High-Airflow Chassis Fan - Black (SKU: FG-033-PT) = £9.95
• 1 x MSI MPG A850G PCIE5 UK PSU 850W 80 Plus Gold Modular Power Supply (SKU: CA-00Y-MS) = £109.99
• 1 x NZXT Kraken 360 Black AIO CPU Water Cooler - 360mm (SKU: HS-02D-NX) = £159.95
• 1 x Microsoft Windows 11 Home 64-Bit DVD - OEM (KW9-00632) (SKU: SW-18J-MS) = £119.99
• 1 x LG 27" 27GR93U-B 3840x2160 IPS 144Hz 1ms FreeSync/G-Sync HDMI 2.1 Widescreen Gaming Monitor (SKU: MON-LGC-00587) = £499.99

Total: £2,589.73 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

You could get the peerless assassin instead of an AIO, which would save £100+. It just needs a little work to tame it if you run the CPU heavily multithreaded.

Cheaper cases are available which include enough stock fans, like Lian Li's 216 or Phanteks P400S.

If you plan on ray tracing, swap the 7900 XT to a 4070 Ti Super.

The 7900 XT is more of an entry-level 4K card at this point, so you might want to check reviews for the 4070 Super, 4070 Ti Super and 4080 Super, to see what kind of FPS you're looking at in the latest AAA games.

Thanks for this!! Is this still relevant for the next couple of months, will be looking to buy in a couple of months and want to make sure it’s still relevant and not about to be outdated? I would be looking at the 4070 TI I think as you mentioned. Would be looking for a windowed case tbh also.

 

[Tetras]

Thanks for this!! Is this still relevant for the next couple of months, will be looking to buy in a couple of months and want to make sure it’s still relevant and not about to be outdated? I would be looking at the 4070 TI I think as you mentioned. Would be looking for a windowed case tbh also.

A lot has changed since February.

First off, if you have not seen the news, then I would not want to buy any Intel 13th-14th gen CPU right now.

I'd wait until AMD release their new CPUs in mid August and we can assess the market again.

 

[rorilogan]

A lot has changed since February.

First off, if you have not seen the news, then I would not want to buy any Intel 13th-14th gen CPU right now.

I'd wait until AMD release their new CPUs in mid August and we can assess the market again.

Just looked now, thanks for the heads up, been living under a rock apparently!!!

Thanks

 

[dfour]

Hopefully the end of august will reveal the 9800x3D which is what most gamers with deeper pockets are waiting to see considering how good the 7800x3D is for gaming now.

If you wanted to jump quicker here's an AMD idea. Just add a windows 11 key only for about a tenner.

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Eight Core 5.00GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-3DT-AM) = £329.99
• 1 x TeamGroup Delta RGB 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-44800C30 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black (FF3D532G6000HC30DC01) (SKU: MY-0B8-TG) = £109.99
• 1 x Asus ROG Strix B650E-F Gaming WIFI (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MB-6JX-AS) = £223.99
• 1 x Asus TUF Gaming 1000W 80 Plus Gold Power Supply (SKU: CA-05Z-AS) = £119.99
• 1 x Zotac GeForce RTX 4080 Super Trinity Black 16Gb Graphics Card (SKU: GRA-ZTC-01496) = £949.99
• 1 x NVIDIA - Black Myth: Wukong Standard Edition Game Bundle (SKU: DIG-NVI-02698) = £0.00
• 1 x Arctic Liquid Freezer III ARGB High Performance CPU Water Cooler - 360mm (SKU: COO-ARC-01992) = £89.99
• 1 x Lian Li Lancool II Mesh C RGB Midi-Tower Case - Black (SKU: CA-79S-LL) = £109.99
• 1 x WD Black SN770 2TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS200T3X0E) (SKU: HD-58G-WD) = £109.99

Total: £2,043.92 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

4K monitors are not my strenth. i would advise looking at monitors unboxed on youtube for recomendations.

You could drop it a couple of hundred with going to a 4070 ti super and a cheaper montherboard and air cooling.

 

[rorilogan]

Hopefully the end of august will reveal the 9800x3D which is what most gamers with deeper pockets are waiting to see considering how good the 7800x3D is for gaming now.

If you wanted to jump quicker here's an AMD idea. Just add a windows 11 key only for about a tenner.

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Eight Core 5.00GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-3DT-AM) = £329.99
• 1 x TeamGroup Delta RGB 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-44800C30 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black (FF3D532G6000HC30DC01) (SKU: MY-0B8-TG) = £109.99
• 1 x Asus ROG Strix B650E-F Gaming WIFI (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MB-6JX-AS) = £223.99
• 1 x Asus TUF Gaming 1000W 80 Plus Gold Power Supply (SKU: CA-05Z-AS) = £119.99
• 1 x Zotac GeForce RTX 4080 Super Trinity Black 16Gb Graphics Card (SKU: GRA-ZTC-01496) = £949.99
• 1 x NVIDIA - Black Myth: Wukong Standard Edition Game Bundle (SKU: DIG-NVI-02698) = £0.00
• 1 x Arctic Liquid Freezer III ARGB High Performance CPU Water Cooler - 360mm (SKU: COO-ARC-01992) = £89.99
• 1 x Lian Li Lancool II Mesh C RGB Midi-Tower Case - Black (SKU: CA-79S-LL) = £109.99
• 1 x WD Black SN770 2TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS200T3X0E) (SKU: HD-58G-WD) = £109.99

Total: £2,043.92 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

4K monitors are not my strenth. i would advise looking at monitors unboxed on youtube for recomendations.

You could drop it a couple of hundred with going to a 4070 ti super and a cheaper montherboard and air cooling.

Appreciate you!

Where on earth do I pick up a key for £10 though the last reply suggested a key was over £100

 

[Rob_B]

We cannot discuss OCUK competitors, but there are lots of places to buy windows keys from with various levels of greyness if you so wish, it's a personal call.

As for the build, go AM5 but wait for 9000 series to be released and see the performance vs cost. You might not NEED a B650E , just get B650 which saves a few quid or gets you get a better mobo. New 8xx mobos are possibly too far away if you want to build soonish.

 

[freddie64]

Where on earth do I pick up a key for £10 though the last reply suggested a key was over £100

You can install Windows without activating it. Then get a key when you find one.

https://www.howtogeek.com/871189/you-can-install-and-use-windows-11-without-a-product-key/

You can use Windows 11 indefinitely without activating it with a license, but you'll see "Activate Windows" watermarks and reminders and lose access to many personalization settings. Despite this, core functionality including updates and the ability to install your own apps and games won't be affected.

 

[lee32uk]

Where on earth do I pick up a key for £10 though the last reply suggested a key was over £100

As mentioned we can't discuss other sites that are competitors. I built a new pc last July and paid £10 for W11 Pro. Sites that sell game codes are your best bet

 

[rorilogan]

So we’re getting to end of Aug, and still no mention of the 9800… getting impatient tbh and think I may as well just upgrade to a new CPU later down the line?

Id love a white aesthetic with white lights on to be inside of the case too, is that doable?

Also, I’ve heard about Nvidia frame generation that can improve FPS, is that something the AMD cards have a similar instance?

 

[Tetras]

Id love a white aesthetic with white lights on to be inside of the case too, is that doable?

Is this enough white shiny for you? Case comes with 7 RGB fans and I've included a RGB CPU cooler too.

So we’re getting to end of Aug, and still no mention of the 9800… getting impatient tbh and think I may as well just upgrade to a new CPU later down the line?

The Ryzen 7600 is not a bad CPU at all for 4K, if you want it as a stopgap.

The last rumour I heard said that the X3D would be announced at CES, which is in January. I think most of us expected it would arrive sooner, like September or October. Sales of the 9000 series has been slow, so maybe they want to clear more stock before they release it.

Also, I’ve heard about Nvidia frame generation that can improve FPS, is that something the AMD cards have a similar instance?

AFMF. This channel covers a lot of AMD's driver updates and what not:

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x AMD Ryzen 5 7600 Six Core 5.10GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-3DW-AM) = £179.99
• 1 x Asus ROG Strix B650-A Gaming WIFI (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MB-6JY-AS) = £199.99
• 1 x TeamGroup Vulcan EXPO 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C38 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black (FLABD532G6000HC38ADC01) (SKU: MY-0B2-TG) = £89.99
• 1 x Zotac GeForce RTX 4070 TI Super Trinity OC White 16Gb Graphics Card (SKU: GRA-ZTC-01498) = £799.99
• 1 x NVIDIA - Star Wars: Outlaws Game Bundle (SKU: DIG-NVI-03030) = £0.00
• 1 x WD Black SN770 2TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS200T3X0E) (SKU: HD-58G-WD) = £103.99
• 1 x Antec C5 ARGB Midi Tower - White (SKU: CAS-ATC-02730) = £109.99
• 1 x Asus TUF Gaming 850W 80 Plus Gold Power Supply (SKU: CA-060-AS) = £99.95
• 1 x Arctic Freezer 36 A-RGB 120m White CPU Cooler - 2x 120mm (SKU: COO-ARC-02419) = £29.99

Total: £1,613.88 (includes delivery: £0.00)​