New Rig ordered via Finance

Abrelosojos · 20 Jan 2011 at 14:33

Hi
Im new here, So sorry if I'm doing wrong by asking, I have searched around a bit and had no luck so gathered best to ask - Im sure a few of you must have ordered via finance before.

Yesterday I signed my life away on the dotted line and popped it in the envelope and sent it off - What realistic time frame should I be looking at for the final delivery, A week perhaps?

What does D_HCR mean?

I've ordered from Overclockers.co.uk a few times in the past but never by finance.

Anyway - Dead excited, Upgrading from a Q9550 to a AMD 1090t with a h70 cooler. OCZ reaper dd2 pc28500 to Kingston hyperX1 ddr3(cheap and over clocks well so what the hell I thought) along with the ... yeah you guessed it, Asus cross-hair formula 4! from the p5q deluxe.

Also snapped up 2 vertex SSD's for a raid 0!!

Decided to keep my 4890's though, Didnt think the upgrade to anything higher was worth it, The 4890's kick out great fps and dx11 is hardly utilised in games - DX12 will be out sooner no doubt.

anyway - Hi !

pcAnywhere · 20 Jan 2011 at 15:00

Interesting choice of components, an AMD route instead of the Intel SB band-waggon. Not sure I'd have gone for 2 SSDs though - is TRIM supported in Raid arrays?

And D_HCR.. no idea!

bifday2k · 20 Jan 2011 at 15:12

Basicly as soon as the finanice company get back the signed stuff from you, and everything is A-OK, then its very quick, they give the go ahead to Ocuk that the funds have been released, so at that point your order will be shipped. Its very quick once the finance company give the go ahead.

About the Raided SSD's, trim will not function with raid, but the vertex's controller uses garbage collection, so all you have to do is log off and let the computer idle once a week for say 30 mins - 1 hour, and thats the same as trim basicly, it allows the controller a bit of time to do house cleaning.

DragonQ · 20 Jan 2011 at 15:19

pcAnywhere said:
Not sure I'd have gone for 2 SSDs though - is TRIM supported in Raid arrays?

TRIM doesn't work in RAID 0, no.

Abrelosojos · 20 Jan 2011 at 15:29

pcAnywhere said:
Interesting choice of components, an AMD route instead of the Intel SB band-waggon. Not sure I'd have gone for 2 SSDs though - is TRIM supported in Raid arrays?

And D_HCR.. no idea!

I dont think SB is anything special.
The price of the 1090t is outstanding, I'll be happy to be back with AMD.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-066-OC&groupid=701&catid=14&subcat=910

TRIM supported in Windows 7 - My mate has the exact same and its lightening fast, My first time with SSD's

Abrelosojos · 20 Jan 2011 at 15:32

bifday2k said:
Basicly as soon as the finanice company get back the signed stuff from you, and everything is A-OK, then its very quick, they give the go ahead to Ocuk that the funds have been released, so at that point your order will be shipped. Its very quick once the finance company give the go ahead.

About the Raided SSD's, trim will not function with raid, but the vertex's controller uses garbage collection, so all you have to do is log off and let the computer idle once a week for say 30 mins - 1 hour, and thats the same as trim basicly, it allows the controller a bit of time to do house cleaning.

DragonQ said:
TRIM doesn't work in RAID 0, no.

Ooh, Well even if not - I'll just run them independently, they are still lightening fast at 285mb/s (as stated)

Cheers for the info on the Finance company, Guess it will be here early next week

EirePlane · 20 Jan 2011 at 15:34

I ordered on a Sunday night, posted the docs on the Monday , rig was with me a week later.

Takes a couple of days for them to receive the docs since it's freepost (They received mine on Thursday), but you will get an email when they receive them. They spend ~24 hrs doing more security checks and then notify OCUK. My order was shipped on Friday, I received it after the weekend.

D_HCR just means that OCUK are awaiting instructions from the finance company

Abrelosojos · 20 Jan 2011 at 15:38

EirePlane said:
I ordered on a Sunday night, posted the docs on the Monday , rig was with me a week later.

Takes a couple of days for them to receive the docs since it's freepost (They received mine on Thursday), but you will get an email when they receive them. They spend ~24 hrs doing more security checks and then notify OCUK. My order was shipped on Friday, I received it after the weekend.

D_HCR just means that OCUK are awaiting instructions from the finance company

Very Insightful thanks

shadow_boxer · 20 Jan 2011 at 15:42

What was the reason for upgrading? Was the Q9550 struggling with anything in particular or just and upgrade itch?

matthab · 20 Jan 2011 at 15:42

I would double check as with the intel ICH10 controller Trim does work in RAID!

DragonQ · 20 Jan 2011 at 16:07

matthab said:
I would double check as with the intel ICH10 controller Trim does work in RAID!

Sigh, no it doesn't. With the latest Intel drivers, TRIM will work if your SATA controller is in RAID mode but your SSDs are not themselves in a RAID array. TRIM will not work if your SSDs are in a RAID array.

This basically means you can have 2 HDDs in RAID 1 plus any number of independent SSDs and they will have TRIM commands passed to them, which is useful. It does not mean you can put SSDs in RAID 0 and still use TRIM.

matthab · 20 Jan 2011 at 16:14

DragonQ said:
Sigh, no it doesn't. With the latest Intel drivers, TRIM will work if your SATA controller is in RAID mode but your SSDs are not themselves in a RAID array. TRIM will not work if your SSDs are in a RAID array.

This basically means you can have 2 HDDs in RAID 1 plus any number of independent SSDs and they will have TRIM commands passed to them, which is useful. It does not mean you can put SSDs in RAID 0 and still use TRIM.

Sigh, it does with Intel controllers......

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardware/2010/03/23/intel-releases-trim-for-raid/1

Thankfully, Intel has solved the problem with the release of a TRIM-compatible driver which finally brings the technology to SSDs in RAID arrays.

Available over on Intel's website – via TechConnect Magazine – the new Rapid Storage Technology driver allows users of selected Intel motherboards to enjoy the benefits of RAID without losing the benefits of TRIM support.

Abrelosojos · 20 Jan 2011 at 16:21

shadow_boxer said:
What was the reason for upgrading? Was the Q9550 struggling with anything in particular or just and upgrade itch?

The Q9550 is brilliant, It's E0 too.
But its been a while, so yeah - Upgrade itch!
Besides my mates 1090t is really impressive, You see significant improvements in games such as gta4 - That I will ever play it any more. lol

DragonQ · 20 Jan 2011 at 16:28

matthab said:
Sigh, it does with Intel controllers......

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardware/2010/03/23/intel-releases-trim-for-raid/1

Sorry but this is incorrect. It was widely reported like this but Intel later clarified that their drivers only enabled TRIM for RAID mode if the SSDs themselves were not in a RAID array. It's even included in one of the comments for that article:

It will support TRIM with SSDs in an AHCI configuration, or with the RAID controller enabled and the SSD is used as a pass through device. An example of this use case is for users that want to use the SSD as a boot drive but still be able to RAID multiple HDDs together to allow for large protect data storage – a great use for the home theater PC. TRIM support for SSDs in a RAID configuration is under investigation and is not included in Intel® RST 9.6.

Also, see these:

http://techreport.com/discussions.x/18653
http://www.pcper.com/comments.php?nid=8538

Paul11 · 20 Jan 2011 at 16:31

what were you finding slow on your Q9550 that you wanted to upgrade, especially on finance ?

matthab · 20 Jan 2011 at 16:32

DragonQ said:
Sorry but this is incorrect. It was widely reported like this but Intel later clarified that their drivers only enabled TRIM for RAID mode if the SSDs themselves were not in a RAID array. See this:

http://techreport.com/discussions.x/18653

Ah poo. I retract my comment

.

SouthEastBlue · 20 Jan 2011 at 16:44

Bit of a strange upgrade in the fact clock for clock Phenom II and Q series will be pretty similar, and the fact 99% of games won't take advantage of 2 extra real cores.

I always think if you get bored of a build that is still working very well the best thing to do is a nice case change. Or even case and cooler. At least it physically looks new then, but doesn't cost a bomb!

Abrelosojos · 20 Jan 2011 at 17:27

Well I know some benchmarks say one thing, and others say another - I don't look into benchmarks too much any more

My experience is GTA4 runs far better on 1090t of a similar set up to what im getting than the Q9550.

I think the 1090t has more future proof potential than the Q9550 - Besides, I didn't want to go too mad and buy a new Sandy bridge or something.

I'm currently Selling all my current hardware on E bay, and I've almost made up all that I have borrowed on finance so - brilliant!! Will possibly pay it back by end of the month.

I bought a new case a few months back - Coolermaster 690ii advanced. I love it, So a new case wasn't going to cut it lol. Nothing more fun than building a new pc anyway

Abrelosojos · 25 Jan 2011 at 09:16

Received aemail from Hitachi finance on Friday saying all is well, yet its still D_HCR :-(

.trying to be patient but 5 days without a PC is tough (sold my old set up) . Think its worth pestering them to hurry up?

CM-Sniper · 25 Jan 2011 at 09:34

Abrelosojos said:
Received aemail from Hitachi finance on Friday saying all is well, yet its still D_HCR .trying to be patient but 5 days without a PC is tough (sold my old set up) . Think its worth pestering them to hurry up?

Probably not, even if you do they can't speed up the process by very much at all. Just sit tight and be patient