New router, not sure what I need/what to get.

Steveocee said:
A lot of the complaints are from people who don't set them up very well. Most tend to whack them into 80Mhz channel width in 5Ghz and expect gigabit throughput.

hAP AC2's are killer pieces of kit and usually get snapped up very quickly.
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This is exactly correct - MikroTik haven’t exactly helped themselves in some instances but they will have a new MTCAPs certification coming (probably at or soon after the next European MUM user group meeting) but if you watch Ron Touw’s Level 1 CAPs video on YouTube it’s very clear why many people get awful results with CAP AC units. They don’t understand radio so they don’t install or set them up properly.

Add in the sky-high expectations most people have for a separate WLAN access point and you have a recipe for disappointment.
 
WJA96 said:
This is exactly correct - MikroTik haven’t exactly helped themselves in some instances but they will have a new MTCAPs certification coming (probably at or soon after the next European MUM user group meeting) but if you watch Ron Touw’s Level 1 CAPs video on YouTube it’s very clear why many people get awful results with CAP AC units. They don’t understand radio so they don’t install or set them up properly.

Add in the sky-high expectations most people have for a separate WLAN access point and you have a recipe for disappointment.
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I like Ron. Very dry but really knows his stuff.
 
Steveocee said:
Yeah that was a little underhand remark I made however MikroTik have kind of made a rod for their own back with this though. A lot of their Wave2 AC kit simply doesn't work as it should because they use an old kernel and are writing what they can custom to make the stuff work. This means the "new" features that Wave2 brings simply won't be implemented (or at least for a long time). Every feature they cannot make work gets tagged as being in "v7" which as of yet has an unknown ETA which it has had for at least 5 years.
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I'm (usually) a really big advocate of MT hardware but their 5Ghz wireless kit whether built into routers or even outddor PtP/PtMP is behind the curve. They seem a bit lost at the moment with product development.
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I was under the impression that the only Wave2 device that MikroTik had produced was the RB4011 with the 4-chain AC radios. And that works really well. I thought all the other devices with access points were ‘wave 1’ for want of a better term.
 
WJA96 said:
I was under the impression that the only Wave2 device that MikroTik had produced was the RB4011 with the 4-chain AC radios. And that works really well. I thought all the other devices with access points were ‘wave 1’ for want of a better term.
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Check the link in my post. I'm sure there are more wave2 devices not being fully utilised. the RB4011 is just 4x4 as well, I don't think they have MU-MIMO working on it.
 
Ice Tea said:
Awesome. :)
Any idea if the key is difficult to retrieve as i'm guessing it makes trying OpenWRT a pain if you want to swap back?
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Extremely good question. I think as long as you take a note of the key before flashing WRT on you should be able to re-enter the key if/when you re-install RouterOS. the key is easily accessible from System>License
 
Ice Tea said:
Cheers Dude , You've been a great help....
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Until 2 months ago I was using MT daily for all kinds of situations. Still use them exclusively at home for routing and switching and used to be quite active on their user forum as well. (Also did a few MT videos on YT)
 
Ice Tea said:
What are you using now instead?
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Still using a MikroTik CHR. No matter what other versions of router or UTM I look at I just can't find one to offer the same functionality as I have set up already. I would LOVE prety graphs and FQ_CodeL but the policy based routing and familiarity I already have isn't worth losing for those features alone.
 
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