New Shuttle Build

SOSAGES2

SOSAGES2

SOSAGES2

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Hello all,

looking at buying my first ever shuttle case and building a small system to sit and work as my download box.

It works out just over 300 quid (ex vat) and i was wondering if anyone had any comments on it (such as will it work? :) )

Shuttle XPC SG31G2 Aluminium Barebones System - Intel Core 2 Duo (LGA775)

Intel Core 2 Duo E2180 "LGA775 Conroe" 2.00GHz (800FSB) -

Western Digital Caviar SE16 500GB SATA-II 16MB Cache - OEM (WD5000AAKS)

Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2x1GB) DDR2 PC2-6400C4 800MHz Dual Channel Kit (BL2KIT12864AA804)

Samsung SH-S203D 20x DVD±RW SATA Dual Layer ReWriter (Black) - OEM

Im aware it has no gfx card (it has onboard its all i need) and i know i can get faster CPU + RAM + Hard drive, but im kinda happy with what i have down here unless anyone can tell me im being silly :)

It will simply download things that i will burn to dvd its to replace my HUGE monster of a download machine.

The storage will mainly be taken care of by my NAS (a QNAP model i expect)

Thanks in advance for any tips/help.
 
It's actually massive overkill as a download box! :)

If that's all you want it for, you could get it even cheaper.
 
I can't see why it wouldn't, although it'd be a travesty not to overclock with that CPU and RAM.
 
seems windows wont install on my lovelly new build.
now spending the day trying to figure out what the problem is :) media/dvd rom/hard drive/cables..
a fun time of swapping everything ahead :)
 
hmmm I would probably say ram timings myself, as its a new build. bad copy or "copy" of windows disk too maybe. bad sata cables pos.. think shuttle has the trademark on those :P

Lax the ram timings is my best guess.
 
well i swapped cables/ports/hard drives/media/dvd drives around and i seem to get nasty BSOD at any point of an early windows install. Or the install will simply hang. I have got as far as copying files once and then a BSOD with some random stop error.

Being a useless bios/overclocking person any idea how i make the ram play better? :)
 
What volts are you giving the RAM? I'm fairly sure it would default to 1.8V which isn't quite enough for Ballistix.
 
Download the ISO image for memtest test and write to a CD. That is capable of testing them memory from boot-up. Memtest 86+ website.

Looking at Crucial website, it lists the timings and 2.2V for all modules found under that product code.

To alter BIOS timings selection option Advanced Chipset Features. Those settings include you memory timings.

Enter Frequency/Voltage Control on the first BIOS screen and select option for DDR2 Voltage Set. Be careful here as you can provide too much voltage.
 
try the sata dvd-rw on the other free sata port on mobo, if mem tweaking doesn't sort it

I believe 2 of the 3 satas are shared [master /slave ]

I'd also consider PC2-8500 ballistix due to current prices, may give you some future proffing when a bios that allows oveclocking the e6x50 chips becomes available and you are contemplating one of the higher fsb cpu's
 
hi chaps.
thank you for the tips. I am all up and running after adjusting the memory settings to run at 667mhz instead of default (800mhz i think)
i will have a play and try and get the ram to work :)
 
entered in 4-4-4-12 + 2.2v in the BIOS options restarted and now its not looking good.
time to figure out how to reset the cmos :)
thank god for the reset cmos button at the back !
back to 667mhz and working.
 
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Nice one.

I know all about board defaults with RAM voltages - when I got my Asrock Conroe 945G-DVI a while back, it defaulted to 800MHz @ 1.7V!!! :o

Was terribly unstable. Pumped it to 2.1V and all was well. :)
 
SOSAGES2 said:
entered in 4-4-4-12 + 2.2v in the BIOS options restarted and now its not looking good.
time to figure out how to reset the cmos :)
thank god for the reset cmos button at the back !
back to 667mhz and working.
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Congrats, real PITA tbh that even with EPP memory none of my shuttles detected the ram properly, unsure if its a Shuttle or memory vendor issue, but I know who my money is on :rolleyes:
 
ok silly question time.
memory states:
DDR2 PC2-6400 • 4-4-4-12 • Unbuffered • NON-ECC • DDR2-800 • 2.2V • SLI-

So in the BIOS i changed:
DDR Voltage set from "auto" to 2.2v

CAS latency time from "auto" to 4
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay from "auto" to 4
DRAM RAS# Precharge from "auto" to 4

I then have 2 options that can be set to 12 Precharge delay (tRAS) and Write recovery time. Both are set to Auto and both can be changed to 12 so should they both be 12?
 
SOSAGES2 said:
ok silly question time.
memory states:
DDR2 PC2-6400 • 4-4-4-12 • Unbuffered • NON-ECC • DDR2-800 • 2.2V • SLI-

So in the BIOS i changed:
DDR Voltage set from "auto" to 2.2v

CAS latency time from "auto" to 4
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay from "auto" to 4
DRAM RAS# Precharge from "auto" to 4

I then have 2 options that can be set to 12 Precharge delay (tRAS) and Write recovery time. Both are set to Auto and both can be changed to 12 so should they both be 12?
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Hi. Not sure about the last one so keep the recovery time on auto. One of two chances it works or it doesn't :P

Btw you should note that intel c2d cpus have almost no performace boost between cas latency levels 3-6. I think its less than one persent. the only benefit that ram will give you is a larger overclock maybe. As you have a 2180your cpu could posibly have the potential to actually need decent overclocking ram.

If stabillity ever becomes an issue dont think twice about setting your ram timings back to 5-5-5-15 (or whatever).
 
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