New SSD as boot drive - what are my options?

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Hi guys,

Hoping to get my new Samsung 1TB Evo 860 SSD tomorrow and currently have my 250GB EVO 840 as the boot drive with a mechanical drive as my D drive at present. Looking to make the new SSD the main boot drive for windows. What are my options other than a full reinstall? Thanks
 
I'd put the 1tb ssd as a secondary, the few percent performance difference (not that you would notice) will be cancelled out by having two drives not 1..
 
bremen1874 said:
Download the free version of Macrium Reflect and clone the old drive onto the new one.
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I did that about a year ago with my Nephews PC. (old was 120GB, new was 240GB ) It point blank refused to recognize the bigger SSD. It copied the files over fine but it did not partition the extra space. The software 'thought' it was the same size SSD. After much frustration & pointless research I gave up & partitioned the unused space separately, gave it a drive letter & my Nephew was happy with that.
 
If you pick the right options in Macrium it’ll expand the old partitions during the clone. I’ve done loads of them over the years.

If you can’t get Macrium to do it, you can resize the partitions manually afterwards.
 
I would just download any Linux distribution, boot into live session and use the
Code: 
dd
command to clone from the old drive to the new drive.

Btw, it's impressive that your 840 EVO has survived for this long! It's presumably the most dangerous SSD ever made by Samsung in history :)
 
voidshatter said:
I would just download any Linux distribution, boot into live session and use the
Code: 
dd
command to clone from the old drive to the new drive.

Btw, it's impressive that your 840 EVO has survived for this long! It's presumably the most dangerous SSD ever made by Samsung in history :)
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In what sense? I have noticed on occasion the drive will hang on boot up but that's about it.
 
Spikey said:
In what sense? I have noticed on occasion the drive will hang on boot up but that's about it.
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Samsung Evo 840, one of the early SSD drives based on planar TLC flash, was an excellent example. The manufacturer was overly optimistic when estimating lifespan of the then-new TLC flash cells. The cells degraded significantly faster than planned. Unable to withstand even the modest 20 to 30 program/erase cycles, the cells leaked charge in powered-off state extremely fast. Many users lost data from unpowered Evo 840 drives after only 30 days of storage. Samsung fixed the issue with a firmware update, which didn’t help correcting a hardware problem. The second fix added a background process that “refreshed” the content of affected NAND cells by periodically erasing/rewriting their content. Needless to say, the fix negatively affected real-life endurance of the drives, wearing cells much faster than planned. As a result, Samsung Evo 840 got a well-deserved reputation of the worst SSD drive in history.
 
voidshatter said:
Samsung Evo 840, one of the early SSD drives based on planar TLC flash, was an excellent example. The manufacturer was overly optimistic when estimating lifespan of the then-new TLC flash cells. The cells degraded significantly faster than planned. Unable to withstand even the modest 20 to 30 program/erase cycles, the cells leaked charge in powered-off state extremely fast. Many users lost data from unpowered Evo 840 drives after only 30 days of storage. Samsung fixed the issue with a firmware update, which didn’t help correcting a hardware problem. The second fix added a background process that “refreshed” the content of affected NAND cells by periodically erasing/rewriting their content. Needless to say, the fix negatively affected real-life endurance of the drives, wearing cells much faster than planned. As a result, Samsung Evo 840 got a well-deserved reputation of the worst SSD drive in history.
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I remember the issue as I had it with my 840 Evo that I have actually just taken it out of my system after replacing it with a Samsung 970 Evo Plus NVME. But in all the time I had my 840, apart from the initial issue that was sorted with the firmware It never missed a single beat.

I've actually just passed the 840 on to a friend who has never experienced the solid state speeds (Hope it lasts and does just as well for them to)

Also in regards to Macrium i've used it loads at work and have never had any problems with it at all. But it flat out refused to clone or even image my old OS from my 250gb 840 evo to my new 250gb 970 evo plus. But Samsung migration software cloned it in minutes without any issue.
 
voidshatter said:
Samsung Evo 840, one of the early SSD drives based on planar TLC flash, was an excellent example. The manufacturer was overly optimistic when estimating lifespan of the then-new TLC flash cells. The cells degraded significantly faster than planned. Unable to withstand even the modest 20 to 30 program/erase cycles, the cells leaked charge in powered-off state extremely fast. Many users lost data from unpowered Evo 840 drives after only 30 days of storage. Samsung fixed the issue with a firmware update, which didn’t help correcting a hardware problem. The second fix added a background process that “refreshed” the content of affected NAND cells by periodically erasing/rewriting their content. Needless to say, the fix negatively affected real-life endurance of the drives, wearing cells much faster than planned. As a result, Samsung Evo 840 got a well-deserved reputation of the worst SSD drive in history.
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Intesting never new this, wonder if it was for the Pro as well as I've been running Sammy 840 EVO Pros in RAID0 for years... they're reporting 86% life expectancy compared to the lesser used granted but Intel RAID0 SSD's I'm also running which are reporting 100% on 3x less many writes over the years. Hey ho, never lost a single piece of data from them and been the best drives I've ever owned... I'm hoping these Sabrent Rockets prove as robust!
 
Spikey said:
Hi guys,

Hoping to get my new Samsung 1TB Evo 860 SSD tomorrow and currently have my 250GB EVO 840 as the boot drive with a mechanical drive as my D drive at present. Looking to make the new SSD the main boot drive for windows. What are my options other than a full reinstall? Thanks
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Use Clonezilla.
 
So actually having a weird issue since I've done a totally fresh windows 10 re-install. I now have the 860 1TB Evo as my main boot drive and the 250GB 840 EVO as the secondary drive, along with a WD drive for storage. Running the samsung magician shows the 840 is faster at random read / write now than the 860 evo? No idea why this is happening all of a sudden?
 
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