New to HTML & Web Design!!

Im just starting out learning html and can strongly recommend "Sams Teach Yourself HTML and CSS"
Its well written, easy to read and covers everything you'll need to begin with.
 
I can recommend the 'Head First HTML with CSS & XHTML'

My 16 year old brother has just received this for his birthday on the 18th June and has already read it straight through. He has a good grasp of them now and can knock out basic websites.

If it is web design you are after you should be looking at the actual design processes as well, not just the code.
 
NicNac said:
Very nice I like it a lot!
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Seriously?? :confused:

I found it an eye sore, the graphics are horrid and the text needs moving away from the border.

Thanks btw to the guy who posted the link to htmldog currently learning html myself. dont suppose anyone knows of any sites emphasizing design?
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just google "Website design tutorials" and you will get a whole list of useful links. There are so many aspects that I am yet to find one site that covers them all so I usually just google the above with the thing I want to learn about, such as "website design resolution tutorials/guides".
 
AHarvey said:
Seriously?? :confused:

I found it an eye sore, the graphics are horrid and the text needs moving away from the border.
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I agree, a designer definitely did not design that site. And lose the valid! links, it should be a given that your markup and CSS are valid.
 
I deliberately have the text right up against the side, in-line with the whole rough edged mono-space font and all.

It's the 1st website I designed, despite being updated countless times. Some like it, some hate it, it's a Marmite design.

As for the valid links, I'm big on spreading the word about the WWWC's standards, too many sites just go for browser compatibility, I go for that, AND conforming to the standards. If you only target the browsers the language will become malformed in time.

In summary, I pay the bills, I'll do what I want. :p
 
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BigglesPiP said:
I deliberately have the text right up against the side, in-line with the whole rough edged mono-space font and all.

It's the 1st website I designed, despite being updated countless times. Some like it, some hate it, it's a Marmite design.

As for the valid links, I'm big on spreading the word about the WWWC's standards, too many sites just go for browser compatibility, I go for that, AND conforming to the standards. If you only target the browsers the language will become malformed in time.

In summary, I pay the bills, I'll do what I want. :p
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It was actually desgined? No offence, but that's one of the worst looking websites I've ever seen (how could you take offence to that? :p).

It took a while of looking until I realised that your menu bar is actually a menu and had things to click, trying to read the site is like looking at some weird optical illusion, if you look hard enough you can just about see some text in the middle of the page, not helped by having no padding on the content.

Also, do you really need half of your home page text talking about how you created the site in the first place and how you can change the theme easily? Anyone who actually is interested doesn't need telling, anyone else isn't going to bother reading. I also agree with Sic, the valid links are really not needed, anyone who knows or cares what they're for is very unlikely to click them anyway.
 
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Lol, it's only web designers that don't like it. Nobody else sees no padding as an issue.

The design lets a lot of the way its written show through, only the experts see that.

Everyone else sees a page which looks exactly like I intended.
 
BigglesPiP said:
Lol, it's only web designers that don't like it. Nobody else sees no padding as an issue.

The design lets a lot of the way its written show through, only the experts see that.

Everyone else sees a page which looks exactly like I intended.
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no offence dude, but that is utter BS. I'm not a designer (though I spend most of my day right now doing html and css) and that just looks like a poorly designed site. I may not be an expert, but I do this for a living! I'm not disputing that it's how you intended but don't make out like the people who don't like it are slackjawed morons, because from what I've seen, you ain't an expert yourself!
 
I'm not saying anything against people who don't like it, in fact I think you'll find I said they were the experts.

I don't claim to be a "designer" myself, and I'm no expert, I'm a beginner. Only bought the site in May, and started learning HTML and CSS then.
 
BigglesPiP said:
I'm not saying anything against people who don't like it, in fact I think you'll find I said they were the experts.
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Most don't know what makes a good website; this is evident from the fact that most people's first websites don't look too great. However, just that someone doesn't realise that a design is bad doesn't mean their impression of the site isn't affected, even if subconsciously. The fact that 'experts' don't like it would, to me at least, imply that there's something wrong with the design.

Also, lose the text about how the site works. As Mickey said, anyone who's interested will already know, as it's how the vast majority of sites work, and those who aren't won't understand and won't read it anyway.

You also contradict yourself in the 'Who?' section ;)

Oh yeah, and don't use <center> tags.
 
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