New TV required

snips86x · 20 Mar 2017 at 14:41

I have a 6-7 year old 42" Plasma that's heavy and old and I'm looking to upgrade to a newer unit. I've now moved house and will be looking to put it on the wall so may as well get a new TV at the same time.

I'm not sure what I 'should' be looking at but I've been eyeing up 50" 4K units (Hisense 50M3300) but I don't really watch 4k content. I watch a lot of Netflix, Kodi and downloaded BR films.

What's your suggestion/recommendation?

MG42Maniac · 20 Mar 2017 at 15:38

LG B6 OLED. If more budget focused, a KS7000.

Psycho Sonny · 20 Mar 2017 at 16:54

Hisenss 50M3300 from a plasma?

That is like going back to VHS after using DVD's. Just why? I take it you don't have much cash therefore your options are simply wall mount the plasma.

You don't even watch 4K content so makes it even more pointless to upgrade atm.

Stick your 42" on an articulated cantilever mount so you can pull it out if need be.

I still have a 50" plasma, in fact it's the most used tv in my house. even more than my 4K LCD.

if you really do want to upgrade then it as to be OLED. do you have a spare £2000? nothing else is an upgrade from plasma. you could buy an LCD like the KS7000 but that would be a downgrade.

MOOGLEYS · 20 Mar 2017 at 21:34

you could buy an LCD like the KS7000 but that would be a downgrade./QUOTE]

I think the KS7000 looks better than any of the Plasma screens I had tbh.

It can be had in a 55" for under £900 now as well which is a great price for what you get.

beachBOYken · 21 Mar 2017 at 10:15

Really don't get this plasma is better than everything unless you spend thousand's on an OLED, I had a Panasonic PV500 and my Sony W905 is much better. Do they even make plasma screens anymore?

snips86x · 21 Mar 2017 at 14:01

Interesting responses, thanks. I was purely looking for something bigger to be honest but it looks like moving from Plasma to anything other than OLED wouldn't be a good move, in terms of picture quality. I've been impressed with the plasma unit so far however. I'm not in the market for spending 2k on a TV so it's something that will have to wait until it dies. I am however already looking at wall mounting it.

MOOGLEYS · 21 Mar 2017 at 14:05

Have you viewed something like the KS7000 in store ? I had a few Plasma screens and I would not say its a downgrade at all.

MG42Maniac · 21 Mar 2017 at 14:41

I had an LG 50PK350 Plasma from 2010 until Nov 2016. I replaced it with a 55" B6 OLED. The picture improvements are massive, night and day. We were so impressed with the LG WebOS that we replaced our bedroom TV (Samsung UE40EH5000) with an LG 49UH770V. It was a cheap TV but I find the picture quality to be superior to the old bedroom TV and about equal with the old LG Plasma. The Plasma gives you a different type of picture when compared to an LED TV, OLED feels like a more natural progression. Our bedroom TV doesn't even review that well but for our uses it is perfect.

MOOGLEYS · 21 Mar 2017 at 15:06

If you have the money the B6 is a superb TV. If your looking at under £1k the KS7000 really is great value and in some ways it betters the B6.

Always best to go and view and make up your own mind as everyone has their own opinions on TV's....

MG42Maniac · 21 Mar 2017 at 15:48

For a sub £1k TV, the KS7000 is definitely the one to go for. The only thing it "betters" the OLED for is brightness, though it's debatable if you will notice it in HDR vs the much better blacks on the OLED. Most reviews seem to compare the KS9000 to the OLEDs are they are in a much similar price point. The key to any 4K TV is feeding it decent, high bit rate content so unless you are doing this, no 4K TV will show its true worth.

V F · 21 Mar 2017 at 16:23

beachBOYken said:
Really don't get this plasma is better than everything unless you spend thousand's on an OLED, I had a Panasonic PV500 and my Sony W905 is much better. Do they even make plasma screens anymore?

Only if one had a really good Plasma. Not all Plasma sets were good. Plus the organic clarity of the picture was really something on Panasonic's Plasmas.

I really wish I got to experience a Kuro. Even a tweaked one that some got them very close to zero black. Glow was minimal without causing raining pixels.

Psycho Sonny · 22 Mar 2017 at 10:13

beachBOYken said:
Really don't get this plasma is better than everything unless you spend thousand's on an OLED, I had a Panasonic PV500 and my Sony W905 is much better. Do they even make plasma screens anymore?

the PV500 is ancient. It was also before all the pioneer techs and research was acquired by panasonic. Basically you bought the wrong plasma and before panasonic started to make ones that were good.

Also what is the W905 better at? Black levels - nope. Motion Control - Nope. Backlight Bleed - Nope.

A calibrated plasma is still regarded as one of the best TV's to own. That is why you still have people selling Kuro's for stupid money over £1K even today.

beachBOYken · 22 Mar 2017 at 10:29

V F said:
Only if one had a really good Plasma. Not all Plasma sets were good. Plus the organic clarity of the picture was really something on Panasonic's Plasmas.

I really wish I got to experience a Kuro. Even a tweaked one that some got them very close to zero black. Glow was minimal without causing raining pixels.

Not sure, think my PV500 was pretty decent at the time.

beachBOYken · 22 Mar 2017 at 10:34

Psycho Sonny said:
the PV500 is ancient. It was also before all the pioneer techs and research was acquired by panasonic. Basically you bought the wrong plasma and before panasonic started to make ones that were good.

Also what is the W905 better at? Black levels - nope. Motion Control - Nope. Backlight Bleed - Nope.

A calibrated plasma is still regarded as one of the best TV's to own. That is why you still have people selling Kuro's for stupid money over £1K even today.

I bought the wrong plasma? please, its ancient like you say and I'm not one bit worried, I found the pv500 very good at the time.
Also the w905 is a superb TV, Ive not had any problems with it. Like you said in the past go by reviews from AVforums and HDtvtest, which is what I do.

Psycho Sonny · 22 Mar 2017 at 11:10

beachBOYken said:
I bought the wrong plasma? please, its ancient like you say and I'm not one bit worried, I found the pv500 very good at the time.
Also the w905 is a superb TV, Ive not had any problems with it. Like you said in the past go by reviews from AVforums and HDtvtest, which is what I do.

it probably was good but pioneer were regarded as the kings before they went bust.

someone else even posted about LG plasma (they were quite frankly sub standard compared to samsung and pansonic, still better than LCD though) again the wrong plasma.

i think panasonic acquired the pioneer tech with the G10 generation. that was the time to start buying panasonic plasmas. you bought before then. I cannot even remember that style of naming, G30, GT50, before that was the Z85B and Z80B, etc. So it must have been one of the original plasmas. Was it even HD?

the W905 is a good tv. However I would say my plasma beats it. I own the successor to the W905 and I own a GT50. The Sony is alright. It's not a bad tv, however my plasma is considered top tier. Cream of the crop. A reference quality panel.

beachBOYken · 22 Mar 2017 at 11:17

Psycho Sonny said:
it probably was good but pioneer were regarded as the kings before they went bust.

someone else even posted about LG plasma (they were quite frankly sub standard compared to samsung and pansonic, still better than LCD though) again the wrong plasma.

i think panasonic acquired the pioneer tech with the G10 generation. that was the time to start buying panasonic plasmas. you bought before then. I cannot even remember that style of naming, G30, GT50, before that was the Z85B and Z80B, etc. So it must have been one of the original plasmas. Was it even HD?

the W905 is a good tv. However I would say my plasma beats it. I own the successor to the W905 and I own a GT50. The Sony is alright. It's not a bad tv, however my plasma is considered top tier. Cream of the crop. A reference quality panel.

The PV500 was "hd ready" I believe, with a max 720p.

Psycho Sonny · 22 Mar 2017 at 11:23

Plasma was just so far ahead in terms of PQ and it was cheap too. It was an amazing technology that didn't scale at all well to 4K. It had to go.

LCD's have lots of issues the bigger you go and the cheaper the panel the worse they become. There are a few good ones out there but still not as good as a top tier plasma.

Thing is most people cannot tell the difference between a plasma and a LCD. I calibrated my dad's LCD and only 1 person out of 5-6 noticed the difference. Still had an issue with skin tones and tinge of redness to it but it's a hisense you cannot have everything at that cheap.

I think I might finally get all my TV's calibrated after I get a projector. Makes sense to get them done now as it's likely I'll keep these now for many years to come.

signs · 22 Mar 2017 at 12:07

Psycho Sonny said:
I think I might finally get all my TV's calibrated after I get a projector. Makes sense to get them done now as it's likely I'll keep these now for many years to come.

What projector you going for ?

Psycho Sonny · 22 Mar 2017 at 12:32

signs said:
What projector you going for ?

trying to source a decent cheap electric screen first.

projector will be one of the ones from AVforums projector best buys guide.

https://www.avforums.com/article/best-buy-projectors-of-2016.13178

you can't go wrong with any of them.

the screen is the hardest part. react screens cost thousands. you can build your own fixed screen for peanuts but I will be placing it in the living room so that is a no go for me. it will have to be electric and go up and down into the ceiling.

signs · 22 Mar 2017 at 13:19

Psycho Sonny said:
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the screen is the hardest part. react screens cost thousands. you can build your own fixed screen for peanuts but I will be placing it in the living room so that is a no go for me. it will have to be electric and go up and down into the ceiling.

sorry for the hijack OP

I went for the jvc x500 to replace my stolen X7 a couple of years ago , can you not paint a wall with "screen paint" ? keeping a electric screen taught is the issue , but React have that nailed, but like you say at a cost !