New! Updated Lightroom CC

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http://www.adobe.com/uk/products/photoshop-lightroom.html

They have some different plans now, including 1TB cloud storage.

Lightroom CC plan
Includes the all-new Lightroom CC and 1TB of cloud storage.
£9.98/mo. incl. VAT.

Photography Plan
Includes the all-new Lightroom CC, 20GB of cloud storage, Lightroom Classic CC, and Photoshop CC.
£9.98/mo. incl. VAT.

Photography plan
with 1TB cloud storage
Includes the all-new Lightroom CC, 1TB of cloud storage, Lightroom Classic CC, and Photoshop CC.
£19.97/mo. incl. VAT.


Looks like the entire library is now stored in the cloud?
 
Depends Raymond, I can see most professionals sticking with Lightroom Classic which works the same as Lightroom does now. CC I believe (I haven't used it yet) has been redesigned to be more cloud-centric.

Have a read of the dp review news article.

From the article here are some of the differences between CC and Classic.

  • Color labels are gone in Lightroom CC.

  • Due to a revamp of the keyword architecture, keywords do not sync between Lightroom Classic CC and Lightroom CC via Creative Cloud.

  • Keywords do ride along when migrating a Lightroom Classic CC catalog into Lightroom CC, but any hierarchical keywords are simplified. Lightroom CC does away with hierarchies, so if you have a photo tagged with a nested group such as, “outdoors > forest > Oregon,” those are added as three separate keywords: “outdoors, forest, Oregon.”

  • Migrating a catalog turns off Creative Cloud sync in Lightroom CC 2015/Lightroom 6. You need to upgrade to Lightroom Classic CC to continue syncing.

  • Lightroom CC cannot print.

  • Currently, the only sharing options from within Lightroom CC are to export to disk or share to Facebook.

  • Lightroom CC has no Web or Book modules.

  • Similarly, there’s no Map module, although location data does appear in the Info panel when it’s available. However, there’s currently no ability to add location info to photos that don’t already have it, or copy and paste locations between images.

  • There is no HDR or Panorama merge features in Lightroom CC. These are features Adobe has said are on the table to add in an upcoming release.

  • Lightroom CC does not offer tethered capture.

  • Lightroom CC has just one library, tied to your Adobe ID; the notion of working with separate catalogs is being left behind.

  • Lightroom CC uses Adobe Sensei search technology to identify elements of photos based on visual content, and tags the images behind the scenes (the keywords aren’t user-accessible). This feature is good for people who don’t bother to keyword their photos in the first place, because they can perform searches for items like “coffee” and get results without any prior work. However, Sensei search requires an active Internet connection; the search happens on the server, not locally.
  • Oddly, Lightroom CC doesn’t know what to do if you’re shooting Raw+JPEG mode on your camera. It sees both files separately, with no way to discern which is which in the Review for Import screen aside from mousing over each thumbnail and waiting for a tooltip to appear.
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So, anyone have any good alternatives to Lightroom? It sounds like the non cloud version is being dumbed down, and I’ll struggle to justify paying the increased price for my very amateur usage.
 
I'd be happier if they also did a photography plan that didn't include LR as I only need PS but standalone apps are £20/mo iirc.
 
My Current Set Up is cloud focused... just on OneDrive instead! 1TB from them as part of my 365 sub (work for them so 20 quid a year)

I have my catalogue set to back up to my OneDrive Folder Daily, My Storage Directory is build within the OneDrive directory so automatically syncs, and I publish images to a separate folder within OneDrive. Only thing I don't have contained is the Lightroom Library since it changes so much - I let the daily back up take care of that!

I don't see what Adobe's solution gives me over that really for extra money!
 
Seems for me to be a no-brainer to stick with Classic CC. At some point their features will converge (probably with some missing that Classic users will be upset about) and Classic will doubtless be retired.
 
Raymond Lin said:
Get LR together for £10 ?
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Agree.
Its £10 per month. Thats less than a coffee a week. Which with all the updates seems a bargain against having to pay full price for both. Before it was subscription based I procured my copies "Another" way. Now I pay my subs. It seems a more than fair price and I dont use it that often either at the moment as I'm too damn busy
 
Personally I wish they would do just a lightroom classic plan. I don't want or need PS and use older versions of elements for anything I can't do in LR. There's very little in PS for photographers that Elements doesn't have and a copy usually lasts me 3 years before I consider an update.
 
I agree. I do find the subscription cost high relative to the amount of use I get out of the software, as a hobbyist rather than a professional. I guess the older standalone versions were pirated so much (and even the CC versions are today - there are plenty of guides out there on how to cancel subscriptions and keep the software) that they took the nuclear option of subscription.

The new versions lock users into more services that just the software, and I guess that's also a way to maintain the subscriptions once they start.
 
The_Abyss said:
I agree. I do find the subscription cost high relative to the amount of use I get out of the software, as a hobbyist rather than a professional. I guess the older standalone versions were pirated so much (and even the CC versions are today - there are plenty of guides out there on how to cancel subscriptions and keep the software) that they took the nuclear option of subscription.

The new versions lock users into more services that just the software, and I guess that's also a way to maintain the subscriptions once they start.
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The piracy argument would hold water if it wasn’t also possible to pirate CC, a 5 second google suggests that it is.

Absolutely zero reason why they couldn’t have sold a perpetual license (or a sub that expires in 100 years!)

Been using Adobe software for 20 years. I’ll still use LR6 but I’ll be switch to something else.

I just don’t rent things, especially given I use it once a month on average, at best.

The LR6 upgrade cost me £70 over 2.5 years, the sub at £8 a month or whatever it is £100 a year.

If I used it every week/earnt money from it I’d have no problems paying. I don’t, so I can’t justify it.

It’s also a joke that the one thing LR users have been complain (performance) about for years is fixed once it goes sub only.

However this whole thing raises an interesting question, all my corrections are made in a proprietary piece of software which will probably not work in 10 years time. What’s the solution?
 
Minstadave said:
Isn’t it the Cloud version that’s fumbled down? The classic version has stayed the same.
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Yeah, after some more reading it seems to be the case, I'd gotten my wires crossed. So I'll stick with the non cloud subscription, for now at least, I can use Onedrive if I want to store images in the cloud. I've recently switched from syncing my libraries via onedrive to using a USB3.1 external SSD drive to switch between my desktop and laptop, and I'm finding that much smoother to use.

Looks like I'd still be getting the iOS version for my iPad Pro as well, which while rarely used will come in handy as I've all but retired my laptop in favour of the tablet.
 
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