New VFR1200F

Sagalout said:
Interested in the engine. Not interested in the bike or ridiculous gearbox.

Typical Honda - will be incredibly competent and powerful with not an ounce of charachter :P
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I cant comment on Riding bikes as you all know havent done my test yet, But a lot of reviews I have read and people I have spoken to say, Honda is not the best bike for experienced riders, they cussion you to much and are too softly with the control. If that makes sence
 
kippermitten said:
Dont agree with this entirely - its an option to change gear differently to the norm and while being easier and different to normal foot opperated changes, if anything gives you more time to study the road ahead and around you.
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What's difficult about a foot shifted gear pedal? :confused: I've only ever done my CBT but even I found it an easy and natural way to use the control. Much easier in my view to have a foot operated control than another thing for your hands to do.

The gear shift looks quite clever, not sure why you'd want to mess around with how you control it though?
 
DavieCramb01 said:
I cant comment on Riding bikes as you all know havent done my test yet, But a lot of reviews I have read and people I have spoken to say, Honda is not the best bike for experienced riders, they cushion you to much and are too softly with the control. If that makes sense
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I don't think my Honda is too bad on that front ;)
(Then again it's 6 years old)
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The new blades are supposed to be incredibly good, not ridden one myself, but might look at adding one to my stable in a few years (either that or an R1 :D)

The new CBR600RRs are fantastic, I certainly wouldn't say you'd feel too detached on one at all. I found it was fairly roomy for a 600, feels light and flickable. Changing lines was a doddle on it as well :)
 
kippermitten said:
Dont agree with this entirely - its an option to change gear differently to the norm and while being easier and different to normal foot opperated changes, if anything gives you more time to study the road ahead and around you.
Race bike have had button upshifters for sometime and it doesnt make them complacent!
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The only racers I've ever heard of using a thumb shifter are those with leg injuries and even then only temporarily. 99% will use an "upside down" gear shifter though and probably a quickshifter with it, so they won't need to use the clutch much anyway.
 
DavieCramb01 said:
Once I finaly get a decent ride on it I will probably say "Bring Back the Future" lol

You neednt talk lol, you will be getting a Vespa once yer back on the road, All you can be trusted with.
(No offence intended there)

Infact here is your next bike.

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Taken from Random thread lol
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Haha love it :D that looks fun!
Hell id still go mad on a vespa ;)
But I might not be riding for a while yet... Might have to get a car for next 6 months :(
 
I use to ride a VFR 800 VTEC, and I remember for several years (2005-onward) many vfr riders were getting excited about the prospect of a new vfr1200. Each year there were rumours of the new bike, maybe even with a V5 engine, which never came to anything. Finally it's here! Although I'm somewhat underwhelmed. I can't help but think a lot of the technology on the bike is typical honda, coming up with a solution to a problem that no one asked. Like putting VTEC on the 800, totally pointless, and most of us would rather have done without it.
 
DavieCramb01 said:
I cant comment on Riding bikes as you all know havent done my test yet, But a lot of reviews I have read and people I have spoken to say, Honda is not the best bike for experienced riders, they cussion you to much and are too softly with the control. If that makes sence
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I wouldn't say that. They just often lack a bit of character. Case in point all the big VFRs... they're fantastic but they're not exciting. At all.
 
PardonTheWait said:
I wouldn't say that. They just often lack a bit of character. Case in point all the big VFRs... they're fantastic but they're not exciting. At all.
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for a new rider they are :)

maybe for experienced riders they may be boring but for a newish rider they make all the sense in the world to start on imho :) you get a reliable bike, heavy, fast enough to start with, capable and cheap to insure / ride.

in this respect i can only talk about my bike a 1987 vfr 750 Fh but boy i love that bike and for what it cost me as a new rider is a pittance. £500 for the bike and £160 to insure it.

now dont get me wrong ive spent a bit on it since but mainly through choice and not necessity. but 2-3000 miles on i still love it and know im not riding it close to how it can be ridden. but getting there slowly but surely. but at 106HP tonnes of torque and 230kgs im sure when i get round to buying a newer bike ill think this thing is an iron horse lol :p
 
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memphisto said:
for a new rider they are :)
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Not as exciting as something more exciting though, new rider or no. There's loads of bikes a new rider can get that have got a bit more attitude, a bit more *****.

I like Hondas, there's plenty that I'd have, and I really like my dad's VFR (I'd consider one especially when it comes time to tour 'serious' distances, which it will soon enough), but they just lack a bit of character, that's all.

And to be honest, by character I suppose I partly do mean quirks and foibles. They're too... good. In a bad way.

It's a feel thing, a head-turning thing, a heart thing. Hard to explain.
 
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PardonTheWait said:
Not as exciting as something more exciting though, new rider or no. There's loads of bikes a new rider can get that have got a bit more attitude, a bit more *****.

I like Hondas, there's plenty that I'd have, and I really like my dad's VFR (I'd consider one especially when it comes time to tour 'serious' distances, which it will soon enough), but they just lack a bit of character, that's all.

And to be honest, by character I suppose I partly do mean quirks and foibles. They're too... good. In a bad way.
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you are right, any of the modern day 600's for example would probably blow the vfr im on now away, i understand that and appreciate it, but for new riders the roar of the V4 along with the silly money some of these bikes go for does make an appealing argument. having said that though most bikes are more exciting than the ones you pass yer test on :p

so far i toured scotland on this one which was around 6-800 miles i think in three days and I loved every minute of it it was so easy on this bike but then tbh ive got nothing to compare it to either :p

the only other bikes ive ridden after passing my test is a CX500 which i have to say was awesome and still is but not for any reasons of speed :p and a triumph tiger 955i which again i loved but was a different bike to the vfr, ive yet to ride a proper sportsbike which is something i would like to rectify in the future :)
 
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Don't get me wrong, I'm with you all the way on useability, my RSV is probably going up for sale in favour of something upright, I've only had it about six weeks! I've got a thing on my back which it's hurting quite badly and causing it to flare up again. But regardless of that I'd only have kept the Mille a year or so because I prefer my bikes more useable.

It's just Hondas don't get me going in the same way other bikes do. They're too good, if they had faces they'd be really smug and I'd want to punch them I think.

ANY bike is vastly more exciting than most cars, you can't go far wrong, so please don't misunderstand me :)
 
Next time you are up Scotland and on the East coast give me a shout, Will (if the bikes on the road) come out and show you some good roads, or come out for a blether and a coffee.

I love the look of the CB1000r one sitting outside the work now, its a kinda Goldy Green colour. I have always bee a supersports person, but realisticly now Im looking more towards things like Speed Triple and CB1000R design, Not so over the tank and a bit more upright but still has a fair old grunt to it.
 
PardonTheWait said:
I like it, looks futuristic.
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Thats what im not keen on looks too concept for me

Atleast they have moved the fitments of the front mud gaurd, My 86 VFR the nuts are attached to the plastic with rivets one poped off, trying to get it to hold whilst it did up the bolt was a nitemare, after it all I had to use araldite to glue it on then screw it.
 
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