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The composite image of the Eta Carinae from NASA's Chandra X-ray Observatory and Hubble Space Telescope shows the remnants of a massive eruption from the star during the 1840s. The X-ray data (yellow) show where material from that explosion has collided with nearby gas and dust. The optical data (blue) reveals material ejected from the star has formed a bipolar structure. Chandra detects a faint X-ray reflection off the inner optical nebula due to the collision of stellar winds between Eta Carinae and a suspected companion star. Credit: X-ray: NASA/CXC/GSFC/M. Corocoran et al. Optical: NASA/STScI


Eta Carinae is a mysterious, extremely bright and unstable star located a mere stone's throw - astronomically speaking - from Earth at a distance of only about 7500 light years. The star is thought to be consuming its nuclear fuel at an incredible rate, while quickly drawing closer to its ultimate explosive demise.
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When Eta Carinae does explode, it will be a spectacular fireworks display seen from Earth, perhaps rivaling the moon in brilliance. Its fate has been foreshadowed by the recent discovery of SN2006gy, a supernova in a nearby galaxy that was the brightest stellar explosion ever seen. The erratic behavior of the star that later exploded as SN2006gy suggests that Eta Carinae may explode at any time.

Eta Carinae, a star between 100 and 150 more massive than the Sun, is near a point of unstable equilibrium where the star's gravity is almost balanced by the outward pressure of the intense radiation generated in the nuclear furnace. This means that slight perturbations of the star might cause enormous ejections of matter from its surface. In the 1840s, Eta Carinae had a massive eruption by ejecting more than 10 times the mass of the sun, to briefly become the second brightest star in the sky. This explosion would have torn most other stars to pieces but somehow Eta Carinae survived.

The latest composite image shows the remnants of that titanic event with new data from NASA’s Chandra X-ray Observatory and the Hubble Space Telescope. The blue regions show the cool optical emission, detected by Hubble, from the dust and gas thrown off the star. This debris forms a bipolar shell around the star, which lies near the brightest point of the optical emission. This bipolar shell is itself surrounded by a ragged cloud of fainter material. An unusual jet points from the star to the upper left.

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Chandra’s data, depicted in orange and yellow, shows the X-ray emission produced as material thrown off Eta Carinae rams into nearby gas and dust, heating gas to temperatures in excess of a million degrees. This hot shroud extends far beyond the cooler, optical nebula and represents the outer edge of the interaction region. The X-ray observations show that the ejected outer material is enriched by complex atoms, especially nitrogen, cooked inside the star's nuclear furnace and dredged up onto the stellar surface.

The Chandra observations also show that the inner optical nebula glows faintly due to X-ray reflection. The X-rays reflected by the optical nebula come from very close to the star itself; these X-rays are generated by the high-speed collision of wind flowing from Eta Carinae's surface (moving at about 1 million miles per hour) with the wind of the companion star (which is about five times faster).

The companion is not directly visible in these images, but variability in X-rays in the regions close to the star signals the star's presence. Astronomers don't know exactly what role the companion has played in the evolution of Eta Carinae, or what role it will play in its future.

Source: Chandra X-ray Center​
 
iCraig said:
If it's 7500 light years away and it's near critical, I'm guessing it's already exploded.
I'm sure it has. Unfortunately we'll only find that out when we either see it or get cooked by it.

Gilly said:
Doesn't it say it happened in the 1840s?
That was just a smaller explosion. It hasn't gone nova yet.
When it does it will most likely be highly visible in the daytime sky.
 
Haircut said:
That was just a smaller explosion. It hasn't gone nova yet.
When it does it will most likely be highly visible in the daytime sky.
Rivalling the moon it says :eek:
 
dafloppyone said:
Its fate has been foreshadowed by the recent discovery of SN2006gy, a supernova in a nearby galaxy that was the brightest stellar explosion ever seen. The erratic behavior of the star that later exploded as SN2006gy suggests that Eta Carinae may explode at any time.

Now that is impressive!

Imagine how intense that must have been for it to have been measured this far away not to mention the fact that they seem to have been able to monitor the star, somehow, before it went supernova!

I mean, thats another galaxy ffs!
 
So what's the estimated time frame for this?

I'm guess it probably won't go bang for another few hundred years at least... :(
 
mmj_uk said:
So what's the estimated time frame for this?

I'm guess it probably won't go bang for another few hundred years at least... :(

According to wiki any time in the next million years.

This stuff is really interesting.
 
loopstah said:
According to wiki any time in the next million years.

This stuff is really interesting.
I'd love to see something like this in my own lifetime. What an amazing experience.
 
johnnyfive said:
So this happend in the 1840's and were only just seeing it now??

Looking deep space is basically like a time machine. Crazy.
No, what we saw in the 1840s actually happened in around 5600 BC. It takes 7,500 years for the light from this star to reach us.
That was just a minor explosion then, it most likely has already exploded but we won't know about it until the light from the star at the time of the explosion reaches us.
 
iCraig said:
If it's 7500 light years away and it's near critical, I'm guessing it's already exploded.

That is an interesting point i recently discussed with two physics friends of mine who didnt quite seem to get it at first. If a star is 7500 light years away, the events we are witnessing happened 7500 years ago relative to our space time. What that means is that the star, relative to its own space but in our time, exploded long ago and would be in a completely different state today.

If you extend this theory to the very outer edges of the universe many many more light years away, for all we know time at these regions could already have ceased to exist and this extinction is making its way slowly towards us at the speed of light; hence explaining why there is a limit to the known observable universe.
 
Clinkz said:
That is an interesting point i recently discussed with two physics friends of mine who didnt quite seem to get it at first. If a star is 7500 light years away, the events we are witnessing happened 7500 years ago relative to our space time. What that means is that the star, relative to its own space but in our time, exploded long ago and would be in a completely different state today.

If you extend this theory to the very outer edges of the universe many many more light years away, for all we know time at these regions could already have ceased to exist and this extinction is making its way slowly towards us at the speed of light; hence explaining why there is a limit to the known observable universe.

90% of people probably have no idea how the light your seeing from the stars at night are 1000's of years old. The stars you see at night probably don't exist anymore but your seeing the light from them years ago still.
 
Our Sun could have exploded right now. We wouldn't know until around 7 1/2 minutes later.

Freaky stuff the fact that when you look at the night sky you are looking at the past...
 
Clinkz said:
That is an interesting point i recently discussed with two physics friends of mine who didnt quite seem to get it at first. If a star is 7500 light years away, the events we are witnessing happened 7500 years ago relative to our space time. What that means is that the star, relative to its own space but in our time, exploded long ago and would be in a completely different state today.

If you extend this theory to the very outer edges of the universe many many more light years away, for all we know time at these regions could already have ceased to exist and this extinction is making its way slowly towards us at the speed of light; hence explaining why there is a limit to the known observable universe.

I know. :)

Here's something else which is cool. Remember that the theory also applies to matter; because matter is limited to the speed of light. So, if you hypothetically got a massively long pole (I'm talking tens of millions of miles long here) and placed it between a point on Earth and a point on another planet thousands of light years away with intelligent life, normal logic would assume that if you pushed the pole upwards twice, to try and communicate with whoever is on the other end, nothing would happen to the other end of the pole until however many light years they are away. If they're 5000 light years away, their end of the pole won't move twice for 5000 years. :p
 
I would give anything to see something like that in my lifetime!

is there anything due to be amazing in the next 50years? any pretty explosions or anything? lol
 
iCraig said:
I know. :)

Here's something else which is cool. Remember that the theory also applies to matter; because matter is limited to the speed of light. So, if you hypothetically got a massively long pole (I'm talking tens of millions of miles long here) and placed it between a point on Earth and a point on another planet thousands of light years away with intelligent life, normal logic would assume that if you pushed the pole upwards twice, to try and communicate with whoever is on the other end, nothing would happen to the other end of the pole until however many light years they are away. If they're 5000 light years away, their end of the pole won't move twice for 5000 years. :p

damn thats scary and almost hard to believe. that would be so freakey. i can accept light takes time but its kinda hard to imagine a physical pole taking time to move! freakey stuff
 
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