Newbie advice for PC build.

Clarence Boddicker · 21 Feb 2024 at 19:11

Tetras said:
From what you have said, I'm getting the impression that maybe you don't actually need a graphics card at all and if you DO buy one, you want to turn this into a proper gaming PC?

Your probably right but Ive decided to get the 3060. Ive always been a console game so Im not entirely sure that Ill take to the pc. No point in getting a more expensive card if its not going to get used so Ill get the 3060 for now. Ive read that they are good for 1080 gaming so Ill stick to that and if I get into playing on the pc Ill upgrade the in a year or so time.

Ordering now before I change my mind again!

Clarence Boddicker · 23 Feb 2024 at 12:22

Ive got a bit of a problem and was wondering if anyone can advise.

Im trying to flash the bios before building the pc but it just wont update. Ive tried usb 2/3 and read and watched various troubleshooting guides with no luck. The LED flashes for about a minute and then stops. Apparently, if flashes for less than 5-6 minutes it hasnt worked.

Im not sure what to do now, I really dont want to put it all together to find out it doesnt work. The box says its only compatible up to 13th gen so im guessing it wont without an update first.

Any ideas?

mickyflinn · 23 Feb 2024 at 12:28

Build the pc outside the case with just CPU, memory and m2 and see if it boots up and goes into the bios.

If yes your good to build and install windows etc, then update the bios later .

Clarence Boddicker · 23 Feb 2024 at 12:32

Ok cheers.

Tetras · 23 Feb 2024 at 12:56

Clarence Boddicker said:
The LED flashes for about a minute and then stops. Apparently, if flashes for less than 5-6 minutes it hasnt worked.

I suppose it is possible the BIOS is already updated.

Clarence Boddicker · 23 Feb 2024 at 13:19

Ive just tried it with the file saved as gigabyte.bin. I was using GIGABYTE.bin as thats what was used in youtube videos.

The bios flash LED flashed for 4 minutes at two different speeds and then stopped. The red motherboard LED and psu turned off at the 5 minute mark.

Not sure if it worked or not as everywhere says that a 32mb flash should take 6-8.

Tetras · 23 Feb 2024 at 13:56

Clarence Boddicker said:
Not sure if it worked or not as everywhere says that a 32mb flash should take 6-8.

I haven't read anything, but just FYI: BIOS updates aren't all equal, since they can do varying levels of uhm, updating, so I wouldn't expect every BIOS update to take the same amount of time.

Mr Oxide · 24 Feb 2024 at 16:31

Clarence Boddicker said:
Ive just tried it with the file saved as gigabyte.bin. I was using GIGABYTE.bin as thats what was used in youtube videos.

The bios flash LED flashed for 4 minutes at two different speeds and then stopped. The red motherboard LED and psu turned off at the 5 minute mark.

Not sure if it worked or not as everywhere says that a 32mb flash should take 6-8.

Can you boot into the Bios? It should tell you which revision it currently is.

Clarence Boddicker · 24 Feb 2024 at 20:20

I built it outside of the case today and Im happy to say it did boot into the bios.. I didnt see what revision it was though as I didnt have the AIO fitted and the temperature immediately hit 100c, so I turned it off quickly.

Ive nearly finished building it in the case now, Ive just got to screw the pump on and still waiting for the graphics card to turn up.

Tetras · 24 Feb 2024 at 20:54

Clarence Boddicker said:
I built it outside of the case today and Im happy to say it did boot into the bios.. I didnt see what revision it was though as I didnt have the AIO fitted and the temperature immediately hit 100c, so I turned it off quickly.

Ive nearly finished building it in the case now, Ive just got to screw the pump on and still waiting for the graphics card to turn up.

Let us know when it is alive

I'd also be interested to know how well the IGP meets your needs (or doesn't), if you get that far before the graphics card arrives.

Clarence Boddicker · 25 Feb 2024 at 18:03

Tetras said:
Let us know when it is alive I'd also be interested to know how well the IGP meets your needs (or doesn't), if you get that far before the graphics card arrives.

Well the graphics card was meant to come today but didint turn up again, I had a feeling it wouldnt so finished the pc anyway. It works

. I haven't really done much with it yet, apart from windows and driver downloads etc.

Ive decided to cancel that 3060 card though, and go with your suggestion of a 7800 XT or 4070 / 4070 super. My computer screens only 1080 but Ive got a decent tv, so ill plug it into that for games.

Is there a particular card out of those ones that you would recommend?

I take it my pc is able to run it with no other upgrades?

Tetras · 25 Feb 2024 at 18:08

Clarence Boddicker said:
I take it my pc is able to run it with no other upgrades?

I'm totally lost in the 3 pages of the thread at this point, what PSU did you have?

Clarence Boddicker · 25 Feb 2024 at 18:33

Tetras said:
I'm totally lost in the 3 pages of the thread at this point, what PSU did you have?

Seasonic Focus 750w psu

2x32gb ddr5 dram

Gaming x ax motherboard

Intel i7 14700k

Ek-nucleus aio

Tetras · 25 Feb 2024 at 19:23

Clarence Boddicker said:
Seasonic Focus 750w psu

Cool, you should be good with either choice.

Clarence Boddicker said:
Is there a particular card out of those ones that you would recommend?

Here's a start:

8 Card RTX 4070 Super Review Round-up: NVIDIA, ASUS, Palit, Gigabyte, PNY, Zotac, & Gainward

Say hello to the NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER graphics card. The RTX 4070 SUPER is the new gateway to high-end PC gaming, announced at the 2024 Internationa...

www.youtube.com

9 RTX 4070's Tested, GPU & Memory Thermals, Clocks, Power & Noise Normalized Testing

Visit Newegg: https://www.newegg.com/GPUs-Video-Graphics-Devices/Category/ID-38Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/hardwareunboxedJoin us on Float...

www.youtube.com

There are user threads on the graphics forum, e.g.

The RX 7600/XT RX 7700 XT, RX 7800 XT and 7900 GRE owners thread

Post all your RX 7600/XT, RX 7700 XT, RX 7800 XT and 7900 GRE related content here. :)

forums.overclockers.co.uk

I think the Hellhound did well in reviews, if memory serves.

PowerColor RX 7800 XT Hellhound Review - it's a no brainer!

Following on from our launch day review of AMD's reference RX 7800 XT graphics card, today we turn our attention to the partner cards, and the PowerColor Hel...

www.youtube.com

Clarence Boddicker · 25 Feb 2024 at 22:07

Tetras said:
Cool, you should be good with either choice.

Here's a start:

8 Card RTX 4070 Super Review Round-up: NVIDIA, ASUS, Palit, Gigabyte, PNY, Zotac, & Gainward

Say hello to the NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER graphics card. The RTX 4070 SUPER is the new gateway to high-end PC gaming, announced at the 2024 Internationa...

www.youtube.com

9 RTX 4070's Tested, GPU & Memory Thermals, Clocks, Power & Noise Normalized Testing

Visit Newegg: https://www.newegg.com/GPUs-Video-Graphics-Devices/Category/ID-38Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/hardwareunboxedJoin us on Float...

www.youtube.com

There are user threads on the graphics forum, e.g.

***The RX 7600/XT RX 7700 XT, RX 7800 XT and 7900 GRE owners thread***

Post all your RX 7600/XT, RX 7700 XT, RX 7800 XT and 7900 GRE related content here. :)

forums.overclockers.co.uk

I think the Hellhound did well in reviews, if memory serves.

PowerColor RX 7800 XT Hellhound Review - it's a no brainer!

Following on from our launch day review of AMD's reference RX 7800 XT graphics card, today we turn our attention to the partner cards, and the PowerColor Hel...

www.youtube.com

Cheers, Ill do some research.

Threepwood · 27 Feb 2024 at 14:24

Clarence Boddicker said:
Ive just googled and apparently there are only a few avisynth filters that make use of the gpu. I think that the encoding is cpu as well.

No im not fussed about a new monitor at the moment. Im using a 26 inch samsung tv and its fine for what im doing tbh

okay, but what is your budget for this build? people need to know this so they can spec the build within a budget, the budget is the next starting point

Mr Oxide · 27 Feb 2024 at 15:05

Threepwood said:
okay, but what is your budget for this build? people need to know this so they can spec the build within a budget, the budget is the next starting point

They were thinking up to £2000

Tetras · 27 Feb 2024 at 15:28

Bit late for that, the PC is already built minus the graphics card

Mr Oxide · 27 Feb 2024 at 16:06

Tetras said:
Bit late for that, the PC is already built minus the graphics card

Forgot that from reading previously. I went back to first post and just repeated

All good

Clarence Boddicker · 27 Feb 2024 at 18:10

Tetras said:
Bit late for that, the PC is already built minus the graphics card

A Hellhound 7800 is on its way.