Newborn tax?

Cryogenic · 17 Mar 2009 at 14:35

It occurred to me that large chav families are partly the result of free baby delivery.

In other countries, they charge for delivery as it is private, £300 upwards. If we implemented such a tax (deducted from benefits if necessary), it would shift the burden of education/health resources to the people actually using them reducing the tax burden of the single person or childless couple, and indirectly confirming to the population they can afford the child in the first instance.

In turn, it would encourage fewer chav offspring/lower population (always a good thing), less environmental damage in terms of food resources needed, less greenhouse emissions, more green belt, cheaper property etc.

I propose the tax be set at £1500 per newborn as taxing the rich/companies further just squeezes the working man more as the rich/companies just offset this by charging us more

Nix · 17 Mar 2009 at 14:37

Another income tax, eh?

antijoke · 17 Mar 2009 at 14:40

WTF are you talking about?

Cryogenic · 17 Mar 2009 at 14:40

Nix said:
Another income tax, eh?

Not really, a tax reduction measure for normal peeps and tax increases for large families.

Ben M · 17 Mar 2009 at 14:40

Our birth rate is too low, and we have an ever ageing population, so let's tax people for having kids. Rocket scientist.

antijoke · 17 Mar 2009 at 14:40

Step away from the crack pipe.

Cryogenic · 17 Mar 2009 at 14:40

anticonscience said:
WTF are you talking about?

A debate, dear boy, a debate

DominicStar · 17 Mar 2009 at 14:42

Cryogenic said:
Not really, a tax reduction measure for normal peeps and tax increases for large families.

What about normal people who are part of a large family, or abnormal people who are part of a small family.

Presumably the charge will be offset against the Tax and NI that is already spent to deliver babies.

Nix · 17 Mar 2009 at 14:42

Cryogenic said:
Not really, a tax reduction measure for normal peeps and tax increases for large families.

You sir, have just failed at the GDwebs.

Cryogenic · 17 Mar 2009 at 14:42

Ben M said:
Rocket scientist.

We are a small island with one of the highest density in the world, I simply propose those who make more babies pay more tax

Cosimo · 17 Mar 2009 at 14:43

Cryogenic said:
A debate, dear boy, a debate

They should tax you.

Ben M · 17 Mar 2009 at 14:43

Cryogenic said:
We are a small island with one of the highest density in the world, I simply propose those who make more babies pay more tax

It's a stupid idea, have all of the replies to this thread not given you a clue?

rsatd · 17 Mar 2009 at 14:44

No no no, that is silly. You only need to stop funding families and MAKE IT CLEAR TO THEM, that they will loose funding if they get a family over a certain size.
Taxing everyone else with common sense is stupid.

platypus · 17 Mar 2009 at 14:45

Britain

Cryogenic · 17 Mar 2009 at 14:45

simulatorman said:
They should tax you.

They do, and I am not happy paying for 10 kids in free housing with free healthcare and education paid for by me. A £1500 tax per baby should make them think twice and only have what they can afford

Cryogenic · 17 Mar 2009 at 14:47

rsatd said:
No no no, that is silly. You only need to stop funding families and MAKE IT CLEAR TO THEM, that they will loose funding if they get a family over a certain size.
Taxing everyone else with common sense is stupid.

But what is say £1500 to a couple who only want one baby? Nothing. If they can afford baby clothes, they will surely be able to afford this. That £1500 will pay for their own baby's education and healthcare. People without babies get a tax reduction :cool:

wordy · 17 Mar 2009 at 14:48

I can see were you're coming from but it's a pretty daft idea.

The people you are wanting to target are on benefits anyway and cutting them to pay this tax will mean they will scream blue murder that their human rights are been infringed and that they are losing moeny that would go to feeding and clothing their brats

not their daily bottle of white lightening

Cryogenic · 17 Mar 2009 at 14:50

Ben M said:
It's a stupid idea, have all of the replies to this thread not given you a clue?

Actually, I'm quite surprised by the replies. I guess if people are happy to raise other peoples children for free. Who am I to say no? Silly me. Welcome to GB :rolleyes:

Radical new ideas always seem strange at first, but this has 100% common sense attached to it

me227 · 17 Mar 2009 at 14:51

Why would it encourage fewer chav offspring? When they get pregnant I doubt they had cost in mind. Plus if they have to pay for it through benefits, it'll probably come out at a silly rate of 50p a week.

platypus · 17 Mar 2009 at 14:51

Not a tax no, but I do believe licences should be required for having babies.