Newsgroups usage up 42%

So why not give everyone 1MB connections - there ya go son that's pleanty to view a website on. What about patches, iPlayer, Demos, etc, etc. we are suppossed to be progressing the roll-out of faster connections not diminishing it.

So what if people download illegally on there - that's there choice surely?

How can you investigate newsgroups when you can't view inside the SSL connections?

I tell you what... i'll shut that pub down because it may, at some time in the future or past, have sold drugs to someone. I can't tell you when it occurred or who by but I'm sure it happened.


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I think the not sharing part is the key to why they're not knee deep in litigation. Without the sharing they can't demand the huge damages in compensation.
 
Burnsy2023 said:
At which point why aren't all torrent sites hosted in Russia?
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Because they would still be able to prosecute the seeders who are most likely not in Russia.

I believe they can see inside SSL connections too but would be a hassle to do so.
 
Smit said:
I believe they can see inside SSL connections too but would be a hassle to do so.
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They could see an encrypted stream between you computer and the USENET server but they wouldn't know what it's payload contained.

Most commercial USENET providers don't keep user logs for obvious reasons ;)
 
Zip said:
I seem to be too retarded to use news groups or under stand them :o
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When the internet first 'commercially' started around 1994 (!) the forerunner of Forums was called Newsgroups/Usenet.
You could (and still can) find a newsgroup dedicated to your subject/hobby and I used to do a lot of posting in those days.
This was also the place for porn but you had to download around 5 UUE files and compile them together to make a porn picture :)
During the late 90's people started uploading MP3 files into dedicated newsgroups and the rest is history.
There is a newsgroup for virtually everything.
 
So is it true that you have to pay for (decent) binary Newsgroup access? Cause I could have sworn someone on here said that only chumps pay for it. :confused:

I thought you had to pay for the file indexer (search engine) and the subscription to the Newsgroup provider?
 
Newsgroups or rapidshare etc services will not be as big as torrents/P2P simply cos these services are not free. Also somehow I don't see any large amount of people being sued for using P2P by anyone and I check various forums regularly to see what is happening.

Anyway piracy will never be stopped, there are just way too many ways to distribute any sort of content.
 
Really don't know if this is the place to ask but what software / newsgroup / site / server (whatever the term is) is currently regarded as good if I wanted to give things a go?

Someone mentioned Astraweb to me a while back but I thought nothing of it.
 
Usenet services do not keep records of what people have downloaded/posted as there simply isn't enough room for the sheer amount of data on the servers. Add Virtual VPN and SSL and it become very time consuming to track what a user is doing. A few years ago (3-4, might not be relevent now) the BPI pretty much admited there was nothing they could do regarding illegal Usenet usage.
 
Ziggy said:
So is it true that you have to pay for (decent) binary Newsgroup access? Cause I could have sworn someone on here said that only chumps pay for it. :confused:
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Yes you have to pay and no you'r not a chump for paying for it. I'd say the chump is the guy who thinks you can get decent newsgroup access for free.

Ziggy said:
I thought you had to pay for the file indexer (search engine) and the subscription to the Newsgroup provider?
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The newgroup provder is the same thing as 'decent binary newsgroup access' in your first question.
 
Why dont the MPAA and so on start selling the movies and musics via DDL, cheap prices and good speeds mean people will be less likely to pirate, flood the market and the demand drops.

DDL movie around £5 a film in HD, i'd pay that.

£25 for a blu ray..............little more pricey.
 
Teki187 said:
Why dont the MPAA and so on start selling the movies and musics via DDL, cheap prices and good speeds mean people will be less likely to pirate, flood the market and the demand drops.

DDL movie around £5 a film in HD, i'd pay that.

£25 for a blu ray..............little more pricey.
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I hate to say it, but I do agree. Micro-payments and digital delivery is the future.
 
Teki187 said:
Why dont the MPAA and so on start selling the movies and musics via DDL, cheap prices and good speeds mean people will be less likely to pirate, flood the market and the demand drops.

DDL movie around £5 a film in HD, i'd pay that.

£25 for a blu ray..............little more pricey.
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Because the MPAA and RIAA still exist in 1980s paradigm where there word was the word of God and think that everyone should bend to there outdated business models.
 
There is also the fact that the powers that be have little to no understanding of bittorrent technology, (ie: the the Davenport Lyons debacle)

By they time they catch up, the masses have moved on to newer shiney tech.
It happened with Napster, it happened with Kazaa, it may or may not happen to bittorrent.

And then we have political 'tards like mandelson, who belive they are championing some kind of cause, yet its quite obvious to all they are just making it up as they go along, with out consideration for anything.

In the case of the pirate bay, it's just the same as it ever was, all that was accomplished was a media storm, or should I say a media 'cloud with risk of drizzle'.
Oh, and sueing 3 or 4 skint guys for the GDP of Zimbabwe.

It seems that some do not understand the very simple principal of supply and demand.
If there is demand for something, that demand will be met, new ways will be found. I find the whole thing quite laughable.
 
Burnsy2023 said:
I hate to say it, but I do agree. Micro-payments and digital delivery is the future.
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What about an all you can eat service? Get loads of content producers in (TV, film, music) and pay a set monthly fee.

TV needs to compete with Sky
Films need to compete with Love film, maybe even have cinema stuff on there shortly(!) after it is released at the cinema
 
Trifid said:
What about an all you can eat service? Get loads of content producers in (TV, film, music) and pay a set monthly fee.

TV needs to compete with Sky
Films need to compete with Love film, maybe even have cinema stuff on there shortly(!) after it is released at the cinema
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Possibly, I think that works for Music, but with the huge overheads of TV and film I think it's less likely.
 
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