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I'm a long time usenetserver.com user. I'm also a newsleecher member. And I get my .nzb files from binsearch.info.

NNTP is fine for binary transfer. It can be used on multiple ports so if your ISP throttles a port you can more, can be SSL encrypted for safety.

Usenet is so easy...untill recently it downloaded everything in lots of seperate parts. But now newsleecher has repair and extract so it puts all the parts together for you :)
 
Smeg4Brains said:
Yea, unless its 4pm+ then you get capped down to 5mbit for 4 hours for going over the rather stupidly low 3gb limit :rolleyes:
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Like I've said before countless times, VMs traffic shaping is far more preferable to that of most ADSL providers. Besides, all my downoading is done outside of peak hours, therefore I don't get affected in the slightest.

Smeg4Brains said:
That, and VM are now starting to shape newsgroup ports.
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Evidence? I have not experienced any shaping of any form.
 
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I pay £4 a month to easy news, I get 20 gig a month for that, (which is all I need really) and any unused bites roll over indefinitely.

I also have a download accelerator (because my ISP traffic shapes) and I can get an episode of something in about half an hour, or a film in about 45 mins. Its very up to date, things get put on their servers about an hour after they have been shown on tv. It also has a lot of old stuff from years back which you can download as well.

Would definitely recommend it.
 
DreXeL said:
Like I've said before countless times, VMs traffic shaping is far more preferable to that of most ADSL providers. Besides, all my downoading is done outside of peak hours, therefore I don't get affected in the slightest.



Evidence? I have not experienced any shaping of any form.
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Yea, but most of us have things called jobs, and do this thing called sleeping at night.

I get maybe 4-5 hours usage out of the net, and during that time i sometimes have to do updates or download something, and then i get shaped down to 5mbit.

I'd hardly class that as fair.

STM isnt in place to stop heavy users, its just in place so they dont have to spend money upgrading the network.

Who cares if its better than ADSL, its cable, its supposed to be.

And your wrong, while with sky ADSL max i got a constant 16mbit/768k with no shaping what so ever, often doing 500-1.5tb/month

And while with Be a constant 20mbit/2.5mbit up with no shaping what so ever.

I find it highly amusing that old copper can beat VMs 4th generation cable.

P.S Newsgroup port shaping is currently a trial VM are running, its area specific right now.

Same with the STM upload trial.
 
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VM said:
Broadband Size: M
During peak times, the top 5% on the Size: M package download at least 350MB of traffic each.

Any users hitting this amount during peak times (4pm till midnight) will have their broadband speed temporarily traffic managed – their download speed will be set to 1Mb, with their upload speed set to 128Kb. This will last for 4 hours from when the traffic management policy is applied.

Even if a Broadband Size: M user has their speed temporarily traffic managed, they can still download over 1,000 music files per day.

Broadband Size: L
During peak times, the top 5% on the Size: L package download at least 750MB of traffic each.

Any users hitting this amount during peak times (4pm till midnight) will have their broadband speed temporarily traffic managed – their download speed will be set to 2Mb, with their upload speed set to 192Kb. This will last for 4 hours from when the traffic management policy is applied.

Even if a Broadband: Size L user has their speed temporarily traffic managed, they can still download over 1,500 music files per day.

Broadband Size: XL
During peak times, the top 5% on the Size: XL package download at least 3GB of traffic each.

Any users hitting this amount during peak times (4pm till midnight) will have their broadband speed temporarily traffic managed – their download speed will be set to 5Mb, with their upload speed set to 256Kb. This will last for 4 hours from when the traffic management policy is applied.

Even if a Broadband Size: XL user has their speed temporarily traffic managed, they can still download over 4,000 music files per day.
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I'm with Usenetserver, VM (20mb), and Newsleecher. For the first few GB during peak times I max out at 2.5mb/s, then VM throttle me and I'm stuck at 600kb/s~.
 
I gave up with torrents, i couldn't get decent speeds, i then moved onto newsgroups. I now max out my connection every time. I Use Giganews and newsleecher as well. NZB's make it very easy.
 
I find Newsleecher's Supersearch feature to be invaluable.

How do you change ports for news access then? My ISP is throttled me down to 2Mbit/s on port 119, I'm convinced.
 
never used a news group before and as newsleecher has a free trial I thought i would have a gander and see what it's all about.

but what or where do you get the ip address for the server i dont get it.
 
Smeg4Brains said:
Yea, but most of us have things called jobs, and do this thing called sleeping at night.

I get maybe 4-5 hours usage out of the net, and during that time i sometimes have to do updates or download something, and then i get shaped down to 5mbit.

I'd hardly class that as fair.

STM isnt in place to stop heavy users, its just in place so they dont have to spend money upgrading the network.

Who cares if its better than ADSL, its cable, its supposed to be.

And your wrong, while with sky ADSL max i got a constant 16mbit/768k with no shaping what so ever, often doing 500-1.5tb/month

And while with Be a constant 20mbit/2.5mbit up with no shaping what so ever.

I find it highly amusing that old copper can beat VMs 4th generation cable.

P.S Newsgroup port shaping is currently a trial VM are running, its area specific right now.

Same with the STM upload trial.
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Put your downloads on before you leave work in the morning?

Log in remotely from work and set some stuff on dl? At 20MB/s you'll easily download all you'd want.
 
ic1male said:
I find Newsleecher's Supersearch feature to be invaluable.

How do you change ports for news access then? My ISP is throttled me down to 2Mbit/s on port 119, I'm convinced.
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Change it in newsleecher server settings.

What ports you can connect to depends on your provider.

Usenetserver serve on 119, 23, 25, 119, 1720, 3128 and 8000
and serve SSL conns on 443, 563 and 8080.

I'm on Be* now anyway so no shaping :)

And I remote desktop into home from work and sort all my downloads out then watch them that evening :D
 
Trifid said:
Most ISP's have plenty of upload to spare. Usenet would typically do more damage to the ISP as you download at full whack all the time, where as public torrents are often slower. At OiNK it was more of a shock to see a torrent that didn't max my connection (I miss it. :( )
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its completely the wrong was to look at it. upload maybe be going spare, but the routers aren't setup for it, the routers are whats letting network down. remember 3-4 years ago there were literally dozens, hundreds of home routers that were terrible because torrents made them keel over and die. because people are throwing out thousands of connections. you are connecting to 1000's of people and using firstly a lot more bandwidth than just the file, all the overhead for each bit of information, downloading in tiny packets, connection to thousands of clients to ask if they have the bit of file you need. routers are being overloaded and causing massive packet lose and bad pings. the reason people like VM are having huge problems with with higher upload/download and more people using torrents their packet loss has gone to crap because people are just overloading routers.

10 connections to a specific computer over one route is far easier on the networks than literally 2-3k connections all getting a tiny bit of info and constantly sending out info to all the other clients. bandwidth is fine, the routers are not. all the industry analyists are predicting problems in the next few years not from bandwidth but simply router technology. if people stop using torrents, we'll have far less restrictions on connections.

now to newsgroups

grabit is completely and utterly free to use for everything except the search function, which why paying 25p a week to use newzbin to get nzb files is not needed. grabit is a very nice little app that now also gives you the option of auto par checking files, extracting and deleting successfully par check/repaired files and deleting rars if it extracted fine. which saves a LOT of effort if you download a lot.

as for what to use newshosting and usenetserver are both very very good with afaik far cheaper than giganews and resellers. 70 days rentention instead of 200 means VERY little. stuff is constantly reposted so you'd find the difference between 70 days retention and 200 days with like 5% extra files and an extra 20 copies of every film/tv show and game. you can normally with uns/newshosting get a small amount for like £5 a month, or completely unlimited for £8 or so.
 
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