Next gen game performance

Freddie1980 said:
For me the issues with the video games market isn't the hardware but the lack of creativity in triple aaa games these days. I've just started playing Battlefield 3 single player campaign and frankly it could be used to forceably induce a coma on someone, it's that boring and this is considered one of biggest games of 2011/2012! If sales are suffering giving us new hardware at best will paper over the cracks as it's developers and publishers who really need to up the anty.
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You have unrealistic expectations.

The single player was just a little aside to the main game - that being online play. I enjoyed the SP campaign for what it was, and the co-operative ones for that matter.
 
Sin_Chase said:
You have unrealistic expectations.

The single player was just a little aside to the main game - that being online play. I enjoyed the SP campaign for what it was, and the co-operative ones for that matter.
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To be fair Bad Company 2 had a decent and fun single player mode so it can be done in the series.
 
I actually thought some of the voice acting in the cut scenes for BF3 were great but agree overall it was pretty dull.

some of these new games are going to be huge now that both will have blu ray and more power. i can see some 30-50gb downloads coming soon. hope steam's servers are ready!"
 
I only see the new generation consoles as a good thing, we will continue to get ports. Whether they are bad ports or not the community we have will sort them out like we've always done.

Hopefully this won't always be the case since the new consoles are destined for x86 platforms. Microsoft has recently ditched XNA so they'll probably use something more cross platform friendly and easier to code in.

Overall I'm not worried, all these reports of 'low PC sales' is complete crap. They simply can't account for the digital sales (Steam don't release figures).
 
I remember reading a while back about Hardware sales for gaming PCs Vs consoles.

And when you compare it like that consoles come out top but when you compare it to each individual console type (xbox, ps3, wii) the PC actually came out top.

While I do think we'll see a slew of console exclusives to begin, I've actually got fairly high hopes due to the consoles designs being very PC like. I'm hoping porting will be much easier and more effective. and performance will carry over amazingly.

I am not however, expecting any game breaking visual enhancements from the consoles.

Consoles are getting more and more like PCs, PCs are getting smaller and more power efficient.

I wonder what happens when we reach true photorealism real time rendering. Where will it go next lol?
 
Finners said:
I actually thought some of the voice acting in the cut scenes for BF3 were great but agree overall it was pretty dull.

some of these new games are going to be huge now that both will have blu ray and more power. i can see some 30-50gb downloads coming soon. hope steam's servers are ready!"
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Games are already hitting 30gb. Max Payne 3, bf3 etc. Bioshock is coming on 3 discs, Crysis open beta was 3gb for 2 maps.
 
There is always improvements to be made in any genre of entertainment and games are no different. Graphics will always improve but I think at a slower and less impressive rate than we have seen between previous console jumps due to them already being at such a high level and game code that has matured so much over the past 5-10 years.

The next level of graphics will be more effects than raw polygon/texture based improvements as the overhead on making games is increasing more and more and their will soon be a limit to what a £40 game can produce especially with Steam box coming down the line which has a chance to drive most gaming price to £30 with mass sales every 4-5 months In which consoles will have to compete (if Steam Box is successful) :p

Porting from next-gen should be easier but with it being easier might also make it lazy for developers who might not put the effort in for the control schemes and multiple configurations that PCs run at. Yep the consoles are on the same architecture but the developers know how much is used for OS driven software, how far they can push the GPU and such without having to worry of scaling for different levels of performance. If the codebase can be ported one to one with PCs, Microsoft and Sony consoles then you might see a few lazy ports especially in the early years of next gen. I'm hoping not though as I''m sure Microsoft will be providing some fairly decent tools to port to PC/Next gen console to help promote Windows 8 integration etc.
 
I do think we'll see more particle based physics also, rather than improvements in visuals. We still have some major jumps to do in GPU performance before we start making them more efficient over performance jumps. Look at the way CPUs have gone. Performance is almost saturated, the 2500k was released over 2 years ago now and it will still contend with the upcoming Haswell line of processors in terms of performance, but not efficiency. We are seeing things become more efficient instead of great leaps in performance.
 
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