Next Round of Nvidia GPU's ?

[Dicehunter]

Currently running on a GT 1030, Sold off my 1080 Ti and Vega64 as I was honestly not that impressed by them, Plus work has increased 10 fold so gaming was cut by at least 95%.

So anyone know roughly when we can expect anything new from team green ? Is it around GTC or is it another conference thingy ?

 

[Kaapstad]

You are in for a very long wait I think.

The clue is the Volta Titan which is likely to be the only release on that architecture for gaming. The reason I say this is the card has no SLI connector and it was initially listed as a 10 series card by NVidia or putting it another way if there were going to be a family of Volta gaming cards then NVidia would have put more effort into designing a PCB with SLI and gaming in mind.

I think we are going to see Pascal on the shelves well into the summer.

 

[jeff83nz]

Plus why wouldbypu botherbwith the 1070ti if you had new cards by the fall. Nut who knows they are faurly good at keeping secrets

Tbf even if the 1080ti did not impress, there is no reason for anything more unless 4k and then only with a rare monitor > 60 htz

 

[LegendaryDread]

I vote GTX 11 series before Q2.

The reason I say this is the card has no SLI connector and it was initially listed as a 10 series card by NVidia or putting it another way if there were going to be a family of Volta gaming cards then NVidia would have put more effort into designing a PCB with SLI and gaming in mind.

Is this really surprising given that most people see SLI as a huge waste of money? I mean, for years, people have been paying 2/3/4x the price in exchange for 1.5/2.2/3x the performance.

That's not to say Nvidia are abandoning multiGPU... but IMO SLI is in dire need of a change to its specification. Perhaps NVLink can be leveraged to overcome the deficiencies in AFR? "SLI 2.0"?

 

[dholdi]

Mmm, it looks like my plan of waiting in the hope that 1080ti prices will fall prior to the release of its successor is flawed.

 

[Radox-0]

People who genuinely know will not be able to say as always. Nvidia seem to play it close to the chest so as not to disrupt sales for the current round of cards out. Gut feeling says in 1H we may see some SKU's, but that is just a guess.

You are in for a very long wait I think.

The clue is the Volta Titan which is likely to be the only release on that architecture for gaming. The reason I say this is the card has no SLI connector and it was initially listed as a 10 series card by NVidia or putting it another way if there were going to be a family of Volta gaming cards then NVidia would have put more effort into designing a PCB with SLI and gaming in mind.

I think we are going to see Pascal on the shelves well into the summer.

I don't know if we can draw conclusions based on the PCB design. The Titan V PCB is designed for the Titan V simply put and a gaming card will not use anything similar. The PCB is designed in large part around HBM 2.0 and the mainstream cards will likely use GDDR, with a mix of 6 (Fabs are tooling up for this) and 5x/5 on lower end models I would expect. These PCBs would be sharing more in common with the current round of 10 series gaming cards.

 

[Dicehunter]

You are in for a very long wait I think.

The clue is the Volta Titan which is likely to be the only release on that architecture for gaming. The reason I say this is the card has no SLI connector and it was initially listed as a 10 series card by NVidia or putting it another way if there were going to be a family of Volta gaming cards then NVidia would have put more effort into designing a PCB with SLI and gaming in mind.

I think we are going to see Pascal on the shelves well into the summer.

I'm honestly not in any rush for a GPU, The most I do at home now due to a vast increase in work is emails and the odd film, The next time I have a normal work schedule is around September next year.

 

[Kaapstad]

People who genuinely know will not be able to say as always. Nvidia seem to play it close to the chest so as not to disrupt sales for the current round of cards out. Gut feeling says in 1H we may see some SKU's, but that is just a guess.



I don't know if we can draw conclusions based on the PCB design. The Titan V PCB is designed for the Titan V simply put and a gaming card will not use anything similar. The PCB is designed in large part around HBM 2.0 and the mainstream cards will likely use GDDR, with a mix of 6 (Fabs are tooling up for this) and 5x/5 on lower end models I would expect. These PCBs would be sharing more in common with the current round of 10 series gaming cards.

This is my point, NVidia have done very little work with the Titan V to make it a serious gaming card and this points to the fact that there is nothing in the wings anytime soon to suggest that there will be a range of Volta gaming cards.

To be honest the Volta Titan is an absolute beast but only because of the increased core count over Pascal, there are no efficiency gains unless properly written DX12 games start appearing very soon.

 

[Rroff]

This is my point, NVidia have done very little work with the Titan V to make it a serious gaming card and this points to the fact that there is nothing in the wings anytime soon to suggest that there will be a range of Volta gaming cards.

To be honest the Volta Titan is an absolute beast but only because of the increased core count over Pascal, there are no efficiency gains unless properly written DX12 games start appearing very soon.

Volta is very much configured for compute type loads so any efficiency gains in a gaming scenario are likely undone by that - probably part of the reason it scales well with VRAM overclocking also as the relationship will be a little different versus a gaming focused architecture.

I vote GTX 11 series before Q2.



Is this really surprising given that most people see SLI as a huge waste of money? I mean, for years, people have been paying 2/3/4x the price in exchange for 1.5/2.2/3x the performance.

That's not to say Nvidia are abandoning multiGPU... but IMO SLI is in dire need of a change to its specification. Perhaps NVLink can be leveraged to overcome the deficiencies in AFR? "SLI 2.0"?

A lot of the limitations with multi GPU are physical ones and not easily overcome with software - for instance when data needed for the next frame is stored on the GPU that is still working on or processed the last frame and is different to the GPU that is doing the next frame the interconnects simply aren't fast enough to fetch it without penalty and even if they were you can't directly access the data but have to process the request through the other GPU's command system which might already be busy. It is likely what AMD were trying to work around with the sideport on the 4000/5000 series but its very complex and likely they just couldn't make it work.

 

[Dicehunter]

This is my point, NVidia have done very little work with the Titan V to make it a serious gaming card and this points to the fact that there is nothing in the wings anytime soon to suggest that there will be a range of Volta gaming cards.

To be honest the Volta Titan is an absolute beast but only because of the increased core count over Pascal, there are no efficiency gains unless properly written DX12 games start appearing very soon.

What's your honest take on Titan Xp ? , I'm considering getting 1, I've already had a 1080, 1080 Ti and Titan XP, All of which left me wanting more.

 

[Kaapstad]

What's your honest take on Titan Xp ? , I'm considering getting 1, I've already had a 1080, 1080 Ti and Titan XP, All of which left me wanting more.

The Xp is about 7% to 10% faster than a 1080 Ti.

Or putting it another way if you got rid of the 1080 Ti you won't get much fun out of the Xp.

 

[Kaapstad]

Volta is very much configured for compute type loads so any efficiency gains in a gaming scenario are likely undone by that - probably part of the reason it scales well with VRAM overclocking also as the relationship will be a little different versus a gaming focused architecture.

I really enjoy reading your posts, you have a way of making a point without getting into silly arguments.

 

[Dicehunter]

The Xp is about 7% to 10% faster than a 1080 Ti.

Or putting it another way if you got rid of the 1080 Ti you won't get much fun out of the Xp.

Mehh, I'll just wait until September then, My little 1030 can help me check emails and watch the odd film until then

 

[Kaapstad]

Mehh, I'll just wait until September then, My little 1030 can help me check emails and watch the odd film until then

It all depends what people want to do with their GPUs, if they are seriously into gaming any high end AMD or NVidia card will do. If they are into waving their bits a Titan is the only way to go.

As for me I am not into waving my bits but am a genuine hardware enthusiast and am totally fascinated by how the latest tech performs, I was checking it out long before I belonged to any forums.

When I game which is a lot of the time I tend to use my quietest PC not the one with the fastest cards.

 

[alternate_UK]

What's your honest take on Titan Xp ? , I'm considering getting 1, I've already had a 1080, 1080 Ti and Titan XP, All of which left me wanting more.

Out of interest, when are you playing that these cards can't handle?

 

[Tom|Nbk]

Not impressed with a 1080ti?

 

[ChocAndGray]

work has increased 10 fold so gaming was cut by at least 95%.

Based on the above, there's no point buying another graphics card if you don't have time to use it.

Also if you're not impressed with the 1080 Ti what resolution were you playing at? If it's 4K then I can kinda understand why some people might not be blown away. While the Ti can get very good performance at 4k, we're still not at the stage where a single GPU can demolish 4k/60fps in the majority of games. It's certainly far closer than the 980Ti ever was.

For me personally the 1080Ti is a 1440p card, yes I know people like to label the 1070 as 1080p, 1080 as 1440p and 1080Ti as 4k but using a Ti at 1440p I can pretty much max settings on most games. On my 980Ti I gamed at 1080p as I didn't want to make any compromises.

While I could achieve 60fps (or close to) at 4k in most console ports, it would annoy me having to lower settings in some games. At 1440p I've not come across any game where I've had to lower anything (aside from AA settings)

I think the "1180 Ti" will be to 4k, what the 1080Ti is to 1440p.

Anyway in order for anyone to really offer you any advice it would be helpful if you explain what you weren't impressed by and what you're hoping to achieve. If you're playing an unoptimised piece of rubbish like PUBG at 4K buying a Titan isn't going to help you....

Mmm, it looks like my plan of waiting in the hope that 1080ti prices will fall prior to the release of its successor is flawed.

It's worth keeping an eye out on hotukdeals, and the "rainforest". They've randomly had 1080Ti cards at under 600 quid. They had an EVGA one for £582 if I remember rightly.

Even when the new cards launch I can't see the Ti being much cheaper than that....

 

[tyler_jrb]

I agree with kaap. I'd say summer time at the very least.

I'm not sure how you were not impressed with a Ti though. Gets me 4k 60hz on every game with high-ultra settings or 130-165hz at 1440p.

Your only talking 20-30% increase at most for the first gaming Volta card.

 

[Kaapstad]

Just noticed that NVidia have got all their Titan Xp variants back in stock, (both Star Wars cards and the standard Xp) both in Europe and the States.

This does not bode well for any Volta gaming cards any time soon as NVidia are still producing Pascal Titans rather than just clearing stock.

 

[DarrenM343]

Not impressed with a 1080ti?

Agree, the Pascal cards are way ahead of the competition and we're finally at a point where a top end GPU will last a few years playing the latest games, easily (dependent on resolution of course but 1440P and less).