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Combat squirrel

Combat squirrel

Combat squirrel

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Well next june I plan to do my next upgrade (and last one for a good while)

Whats likely to be out then you think ?, i.e. akin to what you could get now for £600/£700

now
core2duo
8800GTX
2gb ram

then
Maybe intels next socket, core 2 quad as the 'norm' 3.2ghz +
Mature and stable/faster DX10 card 8800GTX v2.0?
4gb ram ?


Other than the mainboard, that's all I think ill be really upgrading, any ideas as to what you guys think will happen ? :) More of a topical interesting discussion thread :)
 
Intel's native quad core should be out (I think)
Nvidia's 8800 refresh card and ATI's R600 will be out.
2gb will still be the norm.
I doubt solid state hard drive will be out, but 1tb+ hdd's will be here.
 
CHUDS said:
i doubt 4gigs will be really needed then not for another year at least
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Depends what you're doing really, I've got 2 gig now and thats barely enough

Posty said:
solid state hard drives
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I'd like to think so, but I think it will take more like 3-4 years until you can get a decent size for a reasonable price... although that depends on what you think is a reasonable £/GB ratio.
 
martin9887 said:
What exactly is a solid state hard drive? :confused:. Thanks.
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Solid state hard drive is a drive with no moing parts (like a USB stick, but used instead of a hard drive). Normaly they store data using NAND gates. They cost quite a lot in terms of £/GB compared to standard mechanical hard drives, but they have faster read/write times, and as there are no moving parts, mechanical failure is not really gonna happen :)
 
CHUDS said:
class, when will they be out? will the have a larger capacity?
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There are some available - I remember seeing one on the old OcUK site, but can't see it any more on the new site. From what I remember it was around £100 for a PCI card, you had to buy the ram separately and the card was around £100, with 4 slots for RAM.

Currently the capacity is low compared to conventional hard drives, but I suspect that may change in the next few years as the limit for mechanical hard drives is reached and more money goes in to reducing the size/cost of solid state drives.
 
Combat squirrel said:
Well next june I plan to do my next upgrade (and last one for a good while)

Whats likely to be out then you think ?, i.e. akin to what you could get now for £600/£700

now
core2duo
8800GTX
2gb ram

then
Maybe intels next socket, core 2 quad as the 'norm' 3.2ghz +
Mature and stable/faster DX10 card 8800GTX v2.0?
4gb ram ?


Other than the mainboard, that's all I think ill be really upgrading, any ideas as to what you guys think will happen ? :) More of a topical interesting discussion thread :)
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I don't see why you want to upgrade that rig next June already, I would havew thought at least a year
 
Whatever about working solid state drives, we should definitely see Hybrid HDs. These use about 1GB of flash memory as cache, and uses the physical drive as a backing store, optimising throughput and minimising use of the hard drive.
There was a lot of talk about these being a necessity for Vista, so I think I'll be sticking with xp pro for a while.
 
There should be 4gb packs around, but 2GB will still be the norm. Solid state drives won't be here, There still slower read/write times than normal HDD at the moment, this is gotten over by reading and writing to several different ram locations at the same time, potential is there but not in the near future.
 
Evil-Penguin said:
Solid state hard drive is a drive with no moing parts (like a USB stick, but used instead of a hard drive). Normaly they store data using NAND gates. They cost quite a lot in terms of £/GB compared to standard mechanical hard drives, but they have faster read/write times, and as there are no moving parts, mechanical failure is not really gonna happen :)
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But the transfer rates are pathetic for solid state memory atm and they have a limited number of write cycles before they fail so reliability would be questionable so it's nowhere near practical for a hard drive. Now gigabytes iram utility has real potential though, maxes out sata transfer rates and has no read/write limits unfortunatley the cost of all the ram is not feasible for home computing.
 
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ddr3 - fact
intels imc - fact
new chipsets - fact
8900gtx or something like that - semi fact
hybrid hard drives - guess
4gb ram - guess
 
Evil-Penguin said:
There are some available - I remember seeing one on the old OcUK site, but can't see it any more on the new site. From what I remember it was around £100 for a PCI card, you had to buy the ram separately and the card was around £100, with 4 slots for RAM.

Currently the capacity is low compared to conventional hard drives, but I suspect that may change in the next few years as the limit for mechanical hard drives is reached and more money goes in to reducing the size/cost of solid state drives.
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Ram drive =! solid state drive.
 
Evil-Penguin said:
A lot of reviews of the i-Ram seem to mention the i-Ram is a solid state drive :confused:
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Not really. For starters it doesn't use NAND. It's simply data stored on the ram, and the ram draws power from the pci bus all the time the pc's plugged in, but when it's unplugged, you have 10 hours of backup battery, then you lose it all.

Solid state is non-volatile, so the data on it is stored even when there's no power to it. Also afaik solid state drives still have erase write cycles, which is why ram drives are ideal for use as a swap memory, but not as storage, and why solid state drives aren't very popular yet.
 
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