nfc implants, would you?

The implant doesn't put me off, security does.
Surly this is 100% unsecured and anyone who gets within a cm of your hand could copy it.
Now if something sinilar could keep changing the id and the corospospnding lock or what ever new what the sequence would be, then you start getting something workable.



However change it from unlocking stuff to the NHS patient record number or something similar would be a great idea. Insitantly see what blood group you are if you are alergic to anything, existing helath issues which could quicken diagnosis massively.
 
Cosimo said:
So I might be hacked or tracked, no thanks.
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How you going to be either?

It can be cloned, theres no real way to track and there nothing to gain from hacking. Its just a dumb tag holding a random string of numbers. You also have to get very close to read it(cms), so tracking isnt practacle at all. You couldn't say put a device to read it, where cctvs currently are and track people.
 
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Cosimo said:
So I might be hacked or tracked, no thanks.
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Glaucus said:
How you going to be either?

It can be cloned, theres no real way to track and there nothing to gain from hacking. Its just a dumb tag holding a random string of numbers. You also have to get very close to read it(cms), so tracking isnt practacle at all. You could say put a device to read it, where cctvs currently are and track people.
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This there really is no way to track it unless you walk within a few inches of sensor
 
I suppose it might be an option for those who have no fingers to scan their prints to unlock a laptop/door/phone etc.
 
Glaucus said:
How you going to be either?

It can be cloned, theres no real way to track and there nothing to gain from hacking. Its just a dumb tag holding a random string of numbers.
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This can be programmed with anything so it can contain useful information. The potential for hacking or cloning is there. If it contains information to unlock then it has something worth hacking. Might not be easy to achieve but it could be done.
 
Cosimo said:
This can be programmed with anything so it can contain useful information. The potential for hacking or cloning is there. If it contains information to unlock then it has something worth hacking. Might not be easy to achieve but it could be done.
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Cloned yes, but theres nothing to hack. Its just a dumb tag and can be read by anyone. There's nothing on it to be hacked, all you could achieve by hacking would be stopping the person using it as anything he paired it with would reconise the new string of numbers you out on it.

Theres no way to track and plenty of people already carry it around with them, its unsecured which is why banks have it under a £20 spend limit and its guaranteed like direct debit.
 
Oyster cards are tracked and you can trace where you've been. However, unless it has a GPS circuit in it you can't be tracked unless your house locks are somehow connected to the 'net it would be an isolated system.

I kinda like it, unless it fails and then it's a pain to have to replace it!
 
Cosimo said:
This can be programmed with anything so it can contain useful information. The potential for hacking or cloning is there. If it contains information to unlock then it has something worth hacking. Might not be easy to achieve but it could be done.
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It's no different to normal NFC tags, just a whatever bit of number string that does whatever, load a website, load an app, unlock a door if it's a number combination... It's just a shortcut to doing something which is the whole point of NFC tags.

"Hacking" them is a pointless effort as already mentioned. If it was an issue then we'd already know about it since these have been around for a couple of years already and are nothing new.
 
No different to your house keys getting borrowed and someone making a copy as that happens all the time...........
 
Freefaller said:
Oyster cards are tracked and you can trace where you've been. However, unless it has a GPS circuit in it you can't be tracked unless your house locks are somehow connected to the 'net it would be an isolated system.

I kinda like it, unless it fails and then it's a pain to have to replace it!
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Its tracked as you willing swipe it against a machine. You couldnt just mass track random people when its inn your pocket.

SPG said:
No different to your house keys getting borrowed and someone making a copy as that happens all the time...........
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The issue is that a house key would have to be taken off you and copied, nfc all you would need to do is get with a cm or two an copy the signal. Making it far easier. Un till you have a random number tumbling system i wouldn't really want to use it for such things. Unless what you are using it for is guaranteed by someone like the banks.

Unlocking the phone would be more hassle than connivence, either its set up so you still have to press buttons, might as well enter a code. Or its automatic in which case you're going to unlock by accident all the time.
As i said i can see uses for unsecured stuff or for something that means nothing for other people. Like instantly finding your patient record on the nhs. The string of numbers will mean nothing to anyone and if copied gains them nothing. While if you end up injured and unable to communicate they can get the vital information.
 
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The range is not just a few centimetres, it is whatever range you can induce enough power to activate the device and then the sensitivity of the receiver.
 
Glaucus said:
Its tracked as you willing swipe it against a machine. You couldnt just mass track random people when its inn your pocket.
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Do you ever bother to read or understand posts before replying?! :p

You're basically saying exactly the same thing as I just said.

I never said you could track random people from your pocket.
 
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