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NGMA (Conroe) architecture expected to be 20% faster clock-for-clock than AM2 chips

Intel has moved away from that design strategy in favor of smaller pipelines that do more work per stage, and can therefore run at slower clock speeds.
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Hmmm, if you cant beat them (amd) join them! :D

Nah seriously, this should be interesting, time will tell.
 
WOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, Intel fanboy coming through..................sorry :(,

I like this :

The combination of all those architectural changes will allow Intel to outperform AMD's planned offerings for the second half of 2006 without having to resort to adopting AMD's integrated memory controller design, Eden said. "It will take at least a year and a half to two years to close such a gap."
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If this is true then it really looks like Intel are on there way to getting back on track :)
 
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easyrider said:
I dont care.

Intel aint getting my money!

What socket will these new conroe chips be on ?
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LGA775 apparently, because if it wasn't for existing P4 motherboards having the wrong type of power supply on them they would have been compatible with existing motherboards. I'd guess manufacturers will have motherboards out very soon claiming to be both P4 and Conroe compatible.

mmj_uk said:
Is Conroe dual core?
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Yup, dual core. Merom (the mobile variant) is also dual core.
 
and yet another motherboard will be needed.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20060202133551.html

The status of Conroe support by currently available mainboards is not that obvious. It looks like today’s mainboards, even those built on the latest Intel 975X chipset, will not be compatible with the upcoming processors known as Conroe.

so if you already have a socket 775 mobo with a dual core 900 series you will need another mobo to support conroe.

what a suprise :rolleyes:
 
NathanE said:
You need a new motherboard for AM2 too. What is the problem? :confused:
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the problem is

925x
925xe
915
945
955
975

all these on socket 775 and now we need another for conroe. :rolleyes:

Thats one of the reasons I moved from intel. You buy a new chipset 925x it gets changed to 925 xe.

Then you need a new mobo again to support dual core
Then if you have a 955 chipset with a 900 series cpu you need another mobo again for conroe.

Its a joke :mad:
 
Well that's the thing, it has nothing to do with the chipset :p It's that the current P4 motherboards have the wrong type of power supply on them for the processor. Probably because the power requirements between the current crop of P4s and the Conroe are vastly different...

It's a pretty moot point anyway. AM2 will require a new motherboard too (and new RAM.) So that means all the substantial upgrade paths this year will require quite a bit of outlay...

Assuming Conroe prices will be similar to what Pentium D's cost today, the AM2 will be the more expensive upgrade option because you will require a new motherboard and DDR2 Ram (which not many AMD users will own already.)
 
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lowrider007 said:
End of the day If your serious about owning a high end pc then I don't think a £100-150 m/b is going to stop you from having the best, especially when the arverage end user spends around 1k-2k on his/her system.
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I am serious about high end pc.I have one an opty dual core 170 at 2.7ghz currently.

There aint no way intel are getting my money.

The point is what about people who already have the latest chipset intel boards and the new 900 series cpu's.

They have to buy a whole new platform.
 
And what about people that will be upgrading to the AM2 platform, you will need a new CPU, new motherboard and oh, new DDR2 memory as well, I don't understand what your getting so worked up about, AMD have had there fun now it's Intels turn, we know it swings in roundabouts and a true high end user will use whats best regardless if it's Intel or AMD.
 
Well I'm not surprised that Intel may leapfrog AMD if the claims are true based on the design. I guess it'll only be for a short period tho. That's until AMD starts manufacturing CPUs using the 65nm process like Conroe uses. The upcoming Windsor cored AM2 designs are still using the 90nm process.

I would like to see Intel make a 'comeback' with a decent desktop processor which is more thermally efficient (looks like it is with 4 clocks per cycle / 14 pipeline stages) and clocks admirably. I guess they are learning from AMD's design (minus the on board mem controller).

I'm upgrading in September/October and have faith that AM2 will deliever :D
 
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Electronic Dave said:
I guess they are learning a lot from AMD's excellent design
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No they learnt that the NetBurst didn't scale as well as the marketing department had hoped and that their previous P6 design was better :) AMD has been using a P6 derived design ever since the K7. Power efficiency/high IPC is not an AMD invention by any means.
 
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