Nick Griffin, speaks the truth for a change?

Doubt...conspiracy theory...doubt...conspiracy theory...doubt...yawn.

Shame he's also a Holocaust denier too, oh sorry I forgot, ex-Holocaust denier.

And, incidentally, what scientists dispute climate change? Are they credible? How many are there really?

Just throwing out a random figure means nothing.
 
What a moron, seriously. I know he's being emotive but climate change isn't a plot by the worlds leaders to control us all. Please.

He mentions a point about new green companies making lots of money from it. What about the established companies losing out?
 
Might have been better if he didn't call al gore the pope. TBH i haven't seen al gore's name anywhere since the documentary he made.
 
Mammalian said:
is he in a position that his views count?
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He's quite correct in one aspect - we are being taxed through the nose under the name of "Climate Change" and the guise of "We've all got to make a change to make a difference"

Only time will tell if the future population will look back in amusment at our current worries. I really hope they do though, because the alternative is unthinkable.
 
anyone else feel like what nick is actually doing is trying to recruit more followers by appealing to the ones who haven't got a leader yet? e.g. the racist people haven't got a main leader, neither do those who think climate change is a lie, so he just says really radical stuff then all follow him regardless of his other policies? i remember watching a video talking to some of his followers and none new anything about him other then that he'd remove foreigners.

can't think of any now, but i'm sure there must be many other radical people out there without a leader that nick will eventually gain the repsect of.
 
alexhull24 said:
What a moron, seriously. I know he's being emotive but climate change isn't a plot by the worlds leaders to control us all. Please.

He mentions a point about new green companies making lots of money from it. What about the established companies losing out?
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you need to look at the ownership of those green companies, you'll be surprised.
 
When you're siding on an argument with Nick Griffin, who is claiming that there's a global conspiracy of some sorts, it really is time to seek medical help.
 
How the hell can you possibly think / know that's the truth?

Arguing about AGW is worse than "arguing on the internet", because nobody ever wins.


And simply because it is Nick Griffin, it loses any potency it might have had.
 
Well even the name 'global warming' is a little misleading.

Just to be clear - I'm somebody who errs on the side of nature. Nature is a great balancer. I'm not convinced by the 'we caused everything'. There's some things I'd like to add to this though.

http://www.markc.me.uk/MarkC/Personal_Blog/Entries/2009/8/9_Global_Warming_-_Does_it_matter.html

I don't think the way this planet is reacting should be that relevant to how you treat it. This planet has treated us well - let's return the favour.

..then you have climate-gate:

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/j...n-the-coffin-of-anthropogenic-global-warming/

As always with stuff like this I suspect the truth is somewhere in the middle. Yes, we're affecting the climate, but no we're not entirely responsible for the changes that are happening.

The problem is with the polarisation of opinion is that nothing happens. We don't do anything. Personally, like I say above, I think treating OUR planet with respect through common sense should be a goal regardless of whether the have a perceivable immediate result.
 
Moses99p said:
Who verifies the credibility of these thirty one thousand people? I could print this form off and post it in saying I have a PhD... http://www.oism.org/pproject/GWPetition.pdf :eek:
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I could also ask, who verifies the credibility of the IPCC ones?

Considering Climategate, i'd rather put my faith in the OISM then IPCC.

Besides, i would have thought they'd check your name to see if your registered as a PhD or not.
 
oli collett said:
When you're siding on an argument with Nick Griffin, who is claiming that there's a global conspiracy of some sorts, it really is time to seek medical help.
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When you start believing the crap your spoon fed through Rupert Murdochs media empire, then you need to start seeking help.
 
Teki187 said:
I could also ask, who verifies the credibility of the IPCC ones?

Considering Climategate, i'd rather put my faith in the OISM then IPCC.

Besides, i would have thought they'd check your name to see if your registered as a PhD or not.
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It is an unwinnable argument. Like religion etc.

It doesn't matter if 1 or 1 BILLION scientists think x is y. Either group can be wrong. Darwin, Galileo, Copernicus etc. were once one voice amongst 1000s of peers that were once thought to be wrong. They all received religious and public condemnation.

Basically, everyone needs to STFU and we'll know in a few millennia which team was right.
 
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