Ninja Rev.B on P5N32 E6600 Temps

[Fenlock]

Hi guys, just looking for a couple of opinions on this. I overclocked my E6600 last night, on my new P5N32 Sli to 3.2ghz. Cant remember my exact numbers, but i think the FSB was around 355, 1450 effective. The overclock seems stable - at least everything was running fine for the first few hours last night. I need to start stressing it later.

Im quite concerned about my temps though. Im air cooling, ill more than admit that the airflow in my case is not ideal and i will sort this. Im using a scythe ninja rev B. Before the oc at stock speeds (2.4) the idle temp was about 41c, and under load up to around 50c. Last night in monitoring after the OC, the idle was about 56c, and load was anything up to 69c (with prime 95 for 20 minutes, but around 61c in a game).

I suppose what i want to know is if people think this is excessive for the ninja, or if with this level of overclock mid 50's to 60's under load is acceptable.

Im going to re-seat the ninja later, im not 100% happy with it. It is very heavy, and the clips are plastic holding it to the board.

I will add another case fan to improve the air flow through - it's a full tower unbranded generic tower, but it is a professional grade - ive always been happy with it.

Any comments about the ninja, or the temps on the [email protected] with air cooling?

Cheers

 

[Fenlock]

Cheers James, at least it's not just me then. Are we saying that those temps although not nice, are acceptable? I'm going to re-seat the ninja, and depending on how that goes maybe try the stock cooler as well.

What's yours reaching under full load?

 

[Fenlock]

You are joking right?

The thing is light as a feather !!

Well, i wasn't joking.. it might be lighter than a more expensive zalman or water module.. but it's huge, puts strain on the board when in a vertical tower and the plastic brackets seem a bit crap to me. It was a bit of an impulse buy.

I have seen quite a few posts with people reporting improvements on cooling after re-seating them. Im also concerned i might have too much AS5 on there, so i need to double check it.

I think it will turn out to be a good cooler, if i can be sure it's working 100% as it should be.

 

[Fenlock]

Do the Ninja not come with a metal intel bracket that you can install (optionally) by taking the board out?

No, not unless i have fitted it wrong. It comes with 2 optional brackets for socket 478 and AM2, but for 775 you just attach the base 4 feet through the holes on the board. The clips that go through the holes are plastic, and they have this "push and twist" mechanism to lock it in place. It feels ok, but not 'tied down with screws and metal' ok.

Im using speedfan and asusprobe to monitor the temps. TAT doesn't work on my board, because of the chipset i think.. not really looked in to the exact reason why

 

[Fenlock]

The first version defo had a metal bracket for 775 there where no twist/push knobs (revised for the worse maybe) Though I'm sure if the push/twist setup is installed properly it would be secure, but I would be tempted to remove the board and check the install for piece of mind.

Yeah my thinking exactly mate, i'll do this tonight and report back.

 

[Fenlock]

have you tried core temp?

yeah, but i dont really trust it to be honest. The temps are always different to anything else. I read that core temp gets its reading directly from the cpu, rather than the board. But speedfan, ausprobe and tat in the past have always matched for me - so i use a combination of those.

idle last night on speedfan and asusprobe showed 56c idle - coretemp showed 63 idle from what i can remember per core (all after the overclock)

 

[Fenlock]

Ok i reseated the Ninja. I think it was seated ok before, but its possible one of the legs wasn't clipped in. Also i think i had to much AS5 on there. I cleaned it all up, applied the arctic silver as per the official instructions on the site and made sure that this time all 4 legs definitely made the clicking sound and locked in.

Im not running about 47c idle, 54c load. That was after running WoW for around 30 minutes. After i finished the game, it dropped back to 50c and drifted to 47c again.

Much better than last night it would seem at the moment,

 

[Fenlock]

Its quite a naff design, the more i think about it the less happy i am. I know it's quite cheap and all, and for the price (and now it's seated correctly) i don't think you can argue with the cooling.

It's really tricky on my board to push the feet in. All around the CPU are copper heat syncs, and the 4 feet on the bottom of the ninja are basically under the edge of the heatpipe. You don't stand a chance trying to fit this with the board inside the case (not that i tried). Also, because of the tightness getting the board and ninja back in to the case i had to take the optional fan off the top. So when the board and pipe were back in the case and screwed down, putting the fan on top then and trying to fix it with the mounting bracket put pressure on the pipe and loosened the feet again.

Id recommend people try and get the first version looking at peoples comments, even if its just for the miracle bracket to hold it down.

 

[Fenlock]

I have a Rev B Ninja and yes they use the plastic pushpins. Not push and twist though. You only twist them to release the heatsink. i.e. thin lines face outward, push down, job done. Twist them 90% and pull to release, reset to refit.

Well, i agree that is exactly how i thought they SHOULD work after reading the install guide - but mine definitely don't work like that. With mine i push them down, until i hear a click. The click is the black part of the pin going forward over an L shaped lip on the inner circle. Once they are pushed down and "clicked" in to place, all i have to do is pull the clip back up lightly and they release and click out. With mine, once they are pushed down - i twist to the right to lock the black part in to the top of the L so i cant pull them back.

The plastic parts look quite cheap, perhaps there are several variants?