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No Bashing please. 780 or nvidia or ATI

bigmac121

bigmac121

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As the title says please. Don't involve driver issues. Or other issues.

Last card I had was a 4400 ti. Been in the red since 9800 (half life 2)

I just wanted to know if you brought the nvidia cards for the support in games like MLL: Batman etc..

Does this make you buy the cards rather than speed? Bad example below.

MLL: both run at 60FPS. if you stick PhysX on, you lose 15 or 20fps( Wild guess)
Would you still be happy? What I'm asking is why do you buy the cards?
I know from the old days that shadows were better on the N cards.

With all the effects on and you running around, do you actually see the effects. If you turned it off would you miss it?

This this make sense of do I need to be sectioned off:eek:
 
I'm usually easy either way, though went green to try 3dvision and absolutely love it :)

Physx I'm not bothered about really, I plugged 150+ hours into borderlands 2 on a pair of 7970's without it and thats supposed to be one of the better Physx titles. I care more about how good the core of the game is.
 
Struggling to see what you're asking here but from the title alone and the words PhysX included in the post, this won't end well.
 
Most people don't even understand PhysX properly so any discussion about it is likely to go sideways (regardless of the validity of criticism of nVidia's handling of it).

780 wise I'm pretty happy with my WF3 780 GHZ - best card out at the moment IMO - boosts to stock 780ti performance out the box while still having a little OCing headroom, runs quiet, the cooler transfers heat away from the core very efficently and pretty much by and large everything has just worked so far fingers crossed.
 
For me personally, buying top end hardware is about having the smoothest, fastest, most eyecandy experience possible, I rarely buy the absolute top nvidia card and often buy the number two card but two of them, spending slightly more overall but getting close to double the performance of the single top card

Sometime I ignore this though, if I have a specific use and need a feature from a more expensive card

I am the type of person who will buy new hardware because my favourite game at the time requires it to enable a particular setting, like swapping from gtx580's to 670's for battlefield 3 and msaa4x

I cant say that physx specifically has ever been a make or break, typically there will be another setting which has a bigger drop off that needs the new hardware rather than physx itself - and yes, again harking back to the bf3 example, I could very definitely notice the difference between fxaa and msaa in that game, which is what pushed me to upgrade

I always sell off my old hardwqre and for example I got lucky with selling my 580s and the upgrade only cost me postage basically

In the situation I am now, downsizing from 7680 to either 1440p or possibly 4k, and then occulis rift, I cant see me needing to upgrade for quite some time, at least to maxwell gen 2 and possibly volta

I also have a second machine for network gaming with friends which I sometimes buy Amd for, though that is unlikely given all the problems ive had
 
BL2 with PhysX high vs off = night and day. Love it! However, PhysX in a lot of games can really hit the performance.

Also, in b4 lock! :D
 
pgi947 said:
I'm usually easy either way, though went green to try 3dvision and absolutely love it :)

Physx I'm not bothered about really, I plugged 150+ hours into borderlands 2 on a pair of 7970's without it and thats supposed to be one of the better Physx titles. I care more about how good the core of the game is.
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That's what I'm looking for.
 

A small demo of what the difference of PhysX looks like in games.

For me, I would buy a game that has PhysX, as these small and subtle differences add to the eyecandy and I am a stickler for a good looking game. Sure PhysX hits performance but it isn't anything I can say I have noticed in the games I play and on my system.
 
I went for 290 purely on price to performance at the time. That and no games I play use physx. But I regularly advise people to buy 780 depending on what they want. They are both good cards
 
PhysX I mentioned, as I thought that was the main difference between the card.
But thanks for all your answers.
Maybe I want to change camps and trying to justify. But it makes you think!
 
I have a GTX660 and the only game where I thought the PhysX effects look decent were in Borderlands 2,although IMHO at times they were a bit overdone. They can be done on the CPU too,but there is a performance hit. The Tombraider hair effects were done on the GPU too,but it seems the GPU accelerated physics tech AMD implemented works on both companies GPUs.

However,from what I gather the 20NM Maxwell cards will have an ARM based chip onboard too,which might be used for things like PhysX,which makes me wonder whether current cards will be locked out of some effects.
 
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there is no bad choice here, both make good cards, just get which one you fancy, 290 and 780 are very good value at the moment, id be happy with either
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
However,from what I gather the 20NM Maxwell cards will have an ARM based chip onboard too,which might be used for things like PhysX,which makes me wonder whether current cards will be locked out of some effects.
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Why whould they do PhysX on an tiddly ARM chips when it's embedded in a massively powerful GPU? If they have put an ARM chip in Maxwell (and that is speculation at this point) I would put money on it being there to allow the GPU to operate in a very low-power state for laptops when 3D isn't needed.
 
Tough to call really, both 290 / 780 are decent cards, Mantle is interesting and I'll be watching how that pans out as it matures, wouldn't buy a reference 290 though, I love Nvidia 3D vision and it's this that ties me to NVidia for now, PhysX in Batman looks good too.

If your one of those who doesn't really care for PhysX and 3D vision then AMD is an exciting player with the new mantle. Takes your choice and enjoy. ;)
 
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PhysX enables the highest IQ available in said titles, the performance hit from what I have seen in reviews, is less than it used to be(talking about 780 upwards)

I doubt enabling PhysX@1080p makes a title less playable-in terms of high playable fps, performance should be very good now.

If your not bothered about Red/Green, or Mantle/True Audio on enabled titles(currently there is only BF4 with Thief in a few weeks) give it a try, you can always switch it off if you don't wan't it.
 
I had a 290x but with all the problems I DSR'd it and got a 780 couldn't be happier, the 780 is quiet and cool it just works I don't have to mess with settings or drivers like I did on amd
 
arc@css said:
780. Just don't pay the earth for one. As long as its reasonable price, I'd take that over a 290 any day.
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i agree with this chap try and get one secondhand my uncle has 2 in sli there a beast of a card my mate had a 290 but it started black screening so he changed to a 780 and its been rock solid.
 
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