No Muslim outrage

Cyber-Mav · 19 Jul 2007 at 19:22

ArmyofHarmony said:
The host is a jackass, but he made some valid points... not appropriate for the airwaves though

deffo valid points made.

Adz · 19 Jul 2007 at 19:23

Efour2 said:
who we laughing at here the DJ or the Muslim guy?

The DJ. What he's basically saying is that anyone who calls themself a muslim should hold themselves responsible for the conduct of any other muslims. The whole concept is so ludicrous that the poor caller can't even begin to respond to his tirade.

DarkShadow · 19 Jul 2007 at 19:23

Azagoth said:
The day we see thousands of muslims marching through London with "Behead the Extremists" or "Death to Jihadists" plackards then maybe I'll lighten up a bit. Until then, and as long as the marchers are calling for my death and the death of all non-muslims, I won't!

Oh please, that's rubbish. Where were there thousands of people calling to kill non-muslims? It was a handful.

Talk about blowing something out of proportion. Don't be so ridiculous!

Cyber-Mav · 19 Jul 2007 at 19:26

Azagoth said:
The day we see thousands of muslims marching through London with "Behead the Extremists" or "Death to Jihadists" plackards then maybe I'll lighten up a bit. Until then, and as long as the marchers are calling for my death and the death of all non-muslims, I won't!

you make very valid point too. why don;t other religions blow up people in the name of thier religion. that DJ is deffo making sense.

PlatinumFX · 19 Jul 2007 at 19:33

Some valid points. I don't think the Islamic world does enough to reject to the acts of an extreme minority. But there are complexities to this that in the wider picture, make it understandable how hard it is for the moderates to try and reign in the extremists. And it is no different among different religions and racial groups ect.

I disapprove of some of the radio show hosts comments near the end of the clip (particularly the exchange blows, bring it on part). He's angry and has every right. Those last parts weren't diplomatic or constructive. They were provacative and inciting. He should not have said it given his responsiblity as an influence on the public but its understandable.

However freedom of speach (short of provocation or mis-representing information) is a principle I will NEVER compromise on and I am sure we can all agree on that.

FrannoBaz · 19 Jul 2007 at 19:35

DJ = 100% Legend

collisster · 19 Jul 2007 at 19:38

for some reason it made me chuckle.. I feel sorry for the caller because he isn't given a chance. I half agree with the DJ though.

PlatinumFX · 19 Jul 2007 at 19:39

Adz said:
The DJ. What he's basically saying is that anyone who calls themself a muslim should hold themselves responsible for the conduct of any other muslims. The whole concept is so ludicrous that the poor caller can't even begin to respond to his tirade.

Quoted for truth. The guy wasn't given any opportunity to speak up for himself. He was kind of put on trial a bit for the crimes of others and frankly, should he have to defend his faith (?); just to cure some of the ignorance of people who dont understand that the extremists are mostly motivated by an extreme interpretation of their beliefs in context with a grudge against the west and Israel for reasons which are seperate from this discussion.

Valid points all around, but there is more need than ever before; for calm discussion between both sides to move things forward.

FrannoBaz · 19 Jul 2007 at 19:39

collisster said:
for some reason it made me chuckle.. I feel sorry for the caller because he isn't given a chance. I half agree with the DJ though.

Same. the DJ makes very valid points... its a little bit :eek:

for a Radio show though

Sonea Fifer · 19 Jul 2007 at 19:45

To be fair the radio DJ was very condescending and rude - understandably he's upset at what he (and a vast majority of other people) see as atrocities committed by Muslims but he could have at least let the caller speak and put his point across.

His radio show didn't exactly sound like a debate though - more of a case of this is my opinion and your going to hear it !

Sounded like a typical American from my experience

^TANK^ · 19 Jul 2007 at 19:46

I hate that live leak website some really horrible **** on there

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VIRII · 19 Jul 2007 at 20:49

starscream said:
Didn't know VIRII was american

I did not know you were impotent either :confused:

VIRII · 19 Jul 2007 at 20:51

dark_shadow said:
What a nut job.

Are you MSK's brother or lover?

VIRII · 19 Jul 2007 at 20:53

dark_shadow said:
Oh please, that's rubbish. Where were there thousands of people calling to kill non-muslims? It was a handful.

Talk about blowing something out of proportion. Don't be so ridiculous!

They blew some trains out of proportion too. Just a handful? ROFL. How many is a handful..... care to put a real number on that or is every single demonstration and murder carried out by these sick freaks always going to be fobbed off by apologists as just a handful?
Why don't you stop being so ridiculous? A handful ...... what utter ****.

1mm3 · 19 Jul 2007 at 20:53

Cyber-Mav said:
you make very valid point too. why don;t other religions blow up people in the name of thier religion. that DJ is deffo making sense.

Making sense? Talk about tosh!

Did you know 655,000 iraqi civilian people have died since the uk and usa decided to go kill people for oil?

Do you see a muslim dj taking the rip out of any of you uk/ american citizens?

@VIRII: add up ALL the people that have died from the ALL the bombings, will the figure EVER reach 655,000 i think not and this is simply quoting what IS still happening in iraq.

VIRII · 19 Jul 2007 at 20:55

1mm3 said:
Making sense? Talk about tosh!

Did you know 655,000 iraqi civilian people have died since the uk and usa decided to go kill people for oil?

Do you see a muslim dj taking the rip out of any of you uk/ american citizens?

Speaking of tosh how about an official source for these figures

Oh and how many are being killed by muslims by the way..... wouldn't be the vast majority would it.....

1mm3 · 19 Jul 2007 at 20:57

VIRII said:
Speaking of tosh how about an official source for these figures Oh and how many are being killed by muslims by the way..... wouldn't be the vast majority would it.....

Get pwned, go sit in the corner

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/latestnews/index.php?id=8080

Funny thing is the reasearch has been carried out in america and published in the washington post, how old are you 5?

"A team of American and Iraqi epidemiologists estimates that 655,000 more people have died in Iraq since coalition forces arrived in March 2003 than would have died if the invasion had not occurred."

VIRII · 19 Jul 2007 at 20:58

1mm3 said:
@virii: add up ALL the people that have died from the ALL the bombings, will the figure EVER reach 655,000 i think not and this is simply quoting what IS still happening in iraq.

Firstly your figures are hotly disputed but you chose the highest estimate anyway.
Secondly how many muslims have killed muslims since Saddam was overthrown? You do realise that the vast majority of those bombs are set up by muslims don't you. You do realise they recently sent young boys aged about 7 our in suicide vests don't you. Why are you blaming the US for the actions of muslims killing muslims? Or are you just not very well versed in what is really going on?

1mm3 · 19 Jul 2007 at 20:59

VIRII said:
Firstly your figures are hotly disputed but you chose the highest estimate anyway.
Secondly how many muslims have killed muslims since Saddam was overthrown? You do realise that the vast majority of those bombs are set up by muslims don't you. You do realise they recently sent young boys aged about 7 our in suicide vests don't you. Why are you blaming the US for the actions of muslims killing muslims? Or are you just not very well versed in what is really going on?

Read the bold, who are you to argue with american epidemiologists? hmm? lol

VIRII · 19 Jul 2007 at 21:01

1mm3 said:
Get pwned, go sit in the corner

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/latestnews/index.php?id=8080

Funny thing is the reasearch has been carried out in america and published in the washington post, how old are you 5?

"A team of American and Iraqi epidemiologists estimates that 655,000 more people have died in Iraq since coalition forces arrived in March 2003 than would have died if the invasion had not occurred."

Are you seriously claiming michael moore is "fact" despite various other estimates and reports claiming that it is bogus?
Do you think cluster reporting is valid?
Do you believe 500 people EVERY day are getting murdered?

Here, educate yourself:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/guides/456900/456995/html/default.stm

Personal attacks edited out.

-Mod