Noctua Fans - not that good?

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I recently bought the Lancool 2 Mesh, and the included fans are poor. Buzzing/noisy, so I bought some Noctua NF A14 Chromax at £22 each, and I'm pretty disappointed.

In addition to the Noctuas for the front of the case, I bought a Shadow Wing 2 for the rear, and it's considerably quieter.

The Noctuas are quiet at low speed, but even with a low speed adaptor, so they run at similar speed to the SW2, they create a lot of turbulent noise at higher speeds, i.e. it's not the motor, but the sound of the air.


What is your experience with Noctua fans? Good or bad? Why?
 
Turn all your fans off. Then it'll be silent.

In seriousness though, you need to judge a fan on their cooling ability within your acceptable noise levels. It doesn't matter if a fan is quieter if it's not doing anything.
 
For me Noctuas were great. Absolutely the best fan for optimum balance between noise and performance. Really solid build quality, came with a bunch of accessories, good warranty and in the dark they actually reflect the colours from any RGB you have.

However.... All fans move air. Air creates noise when it moves through things like filters, grilles, mesh, heatsinks and radiators. This is inescapable fact and basic physics.
Both my EK Vardar fans and my ML120s were very quiet outside the case, but against a low FPI radiator the Vardars sounded like an F14 taking off while the MLs were whisper quiet... and then not so quite when placed in Pull outside of the back panel exhaust.
There are many variables.

Unfortunately, there isn't that much information readily available from manufacturers regarding the airflow spread patterns and how they might perform accoustically against .02mm mesh filters, or through 4mm grilles, or through 16fpi rads of various different thicknesses.
So we're mostly left with Plan B... which is trying different fans in our individual builds and seeing what works best.
 
Mine have been excellent but depends on which one you get. I got the A12x25 and they were excellent. When the A14 launched (current listing says 2013) they were far and away great compared to the market for their noise to cooling performance. Now a days a lot of companies have focused on this but I guess you can thank Noctua for this. Yes they are expensive but someone has to do the research and development and also they are classed as premium products.

I sold my A12x25s because I tried the artic P12 and was blown away by price to performance.
 
Interesting points of view here. My girlfriend's PC uses pure wings 2, and they're excellent. No turbulence like I'm experiencing with the noctuas.

These are just case fans, so not for cooling specifically, just moving air into the case, and for that job, the Noctua are noisy.

I've bought some Shadow Wings 2, will report back on how noisy they are :-)
 
Interesting points of view here. My girlfriend's PC uses pure wings 2, and they're excellent. No turbulence like I'm experiencing with the noctuas.

These are just case fans, so not for cooling specifically, just moving air into the case, and for that job, the Noctua are noisy.

I've bought some Shadow Wings 2, will report back on how noisy they are :)

Intake fans are pretty much the most important. They have to overcome grills/meshes/foam etc to draw fresh air into the case, often working against a pressure gradient too. Exhaust fans, especially if the intakes are doing their jobs well, will have an easier time of it in general.

Ignore the noise for a moment, and check your temps. If your temps are good, you can slow the fans down. If they can cool just as well at a slower speed, they'll probably be quieter.
 
Ignore the noise for a moment, and check your temps. If your temps are good, you can slow the fans down. If they can cool just as well at a slower speed, they'll probably be quieter.

I've tested them without the mesh panel on and even outside of the case and they exhibit the same noise. I'm very sensitive to noise so regardless, they're going back :-)
 
I'd say the case front grill design might be creating the noise more than the fan
my noctuas are whisper quiet 120mm and 140mm

If you like quiet never ever get a case with lots of open grills
shame you not got 2 of the rear and can compare them at the front at the same rpms
are they running full rpm 5v 7v 12v ? try them at 7v
 
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I'd say the case front grill design is creating the noise more than the fan
my noctuas are whisper quiet 120mm and 140mm

If you like quiet never ever get a case with lots of open grills

I thought the same about the mesh but it’s the same if I just run the fans without them in the case at all.

Also with regards to your statement about mesh cases being louder I disagree. With good quality fans, they’ll be quieter and cooler. This has been my experience with my girlfriend’s P400 with the mesh upgrade (PC became quieter as coolers weren’t starved) and my brothers P400A.
 
I thought the same about the mesh but it’s the same if I just run the fans without them in the case at all.

Also with regards to your statement about mesh cases being louder I disagree. With good quality fans, they’ll be quieter and cooler. This has been my experience with my girlfriend’s P400 with the mesh upgrade (PC became quieter as coolers weren’t starved) and my brothers P400A.
we beg to differ then
 
I have lots of open grills on mine. All noctuas. 10 years old. It's silent until I push the GPU, but then that's what having a decent air cooled PC is about :)
 
Having got a whole set of Arctic P12s (what most people favour for price to noise and performance) in one rig, and a whole set of Noctua A12x25s (formerly with A14, same as your one, except PWM and non Chromax, and an A20 and a A9, all PWM) and formerly other fans as well, I can drop a few things of note here:

I can confirm that I too ran into a few issues with the A14 in one of my cases, initially it turns out it's not the fan, but a PWM issue on the first A14 fan, then the replacement when used with the dust filter (soft version, that's held there by duct tape) and the cage I had attached the A14 to, was not actually stabalised on the z axis. This resulted in the fan creating a sort of hum, or harmonic resonance type of sound from it when dialled up. So I agree with @C64 that it may be possible that something else is causing the problem that you're not aware of. Once I had that sorted out (through various means), I didn't have the same issues crop up on the cage and its z axis vibration resonance, but did find that the A14 at higher rpms caused a rush of air sound that was not "smooth" when fitted inside the case (it was fine outside the case), this is what you are experiencing I imagine. And in that case, I agree that the A14 isn't very nice.

As above though, you should just do some quick checks to make sure there's not other mechanical issues that you might have missed that is causing this (like the z axis on something isn't acting up at the front of your case, etc). But even here, I swapped the A14 out for a Noctua A12x25 for a smoother and lower sound output when I need to push the rpms (I don't really, but just in case). But in your case, you're probably best served by going for 140mm fans, which Noctua do not have a product for that is a contemporary of the A12x25 in the 140mm band (it's been pushed back a year, again, supposedly named A14x25), I'd recommend you try the Arctic P14 as someone else suggested earlier for the 140mm fan slots at the front of your case.

I personally have not had issues otherwise with the Noctua A12x25s, other than it's silly pricey. And if I wasn't curious as to how low I can get the noise produced from this rig going air only, I wouldn't have gone the whole nine yards for it, and indeed also would have just got more Arctic P12s. But, my recent tests also showed that there's some discrepency (in favour towards the Noctua) between the two fans at various audible rpms (The A12x25s just nudges the P12 where it needs it to). So I would say the Noctua fans are good fans and (personally) the best available (but I can only say this for the A12x25).
 
I'd try mounting with rubber fan grommets instead of screws snip ends off so it can still fit in the front worth a try
 
I thought the same about the mesh but it’s the same if I just run the fans without them in the case at all.

Also with regards to your statement about mesh cases being louder I disagree. With good quality fans, they’ll be quieter and cooler. This has been my experience with my girlfriend’s P400 with the mesh upgrade (PC became quieter as coolers weren’t starved) and my brothers P400A.

if that is the case why are all silence in mind cases designed with closed off panels and as little openings as possible
 
if that is the case why are all silence in mind cases designed with closed off panels and as little openings as possible

Because:

It's cheaper to produce crap fans in a case that is covered by foam and steel to reduce noise
People aren't educated enough to know the difference, so on the surface it makes sense that a case with no openings would be quieter.


The issue is, with internal fans becoming chocked, they need to run at higher speeds to maintain the same cooling potential, since the internal ambient air is higher.


I'm not saying that silent cases with closed fronts like the Fractal Define series CAN'T be quieter, but rather for a given noise level, they won't as cool, so you can lower fan speeds on a mesh case to make it quieter and cooler/as cool.

I'd try mounting with rubber fan grommets instead of screws snip ends off so it can still fit in the front worth a try

I have tried this unfortunately with no success :(
 
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