Non-SLR camera with larger CCD

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Hello - I am looking for a "zoom" camera that will take good pictures in lowish light (e.g. indoors on a winter's day) and of todders who dart around, without getting a blurred image, 1or 2 seconds after I click the shutter.

I know SLRs will do what I want but is there a "bridge" camera that has a good zoom range and a near-SLR sensor size so that I don't get grainy shots at high ISO numbers.

I have a pocket digital which is brilliant outside in the summer but....

Thanks for any advice, Mel :rolleyes:
 
What kind of money we talking?

Ive just posted in another thread about a Canon Powershot A470 thats quite good, got some brilliant pics at wembley, inside and outside the stadium in and out of light, its a brilliant camera in my view.

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£300 - £350 (say) but getting what I want is more important. I want a good lens as well. It can look a bit like an SLR - I just want something that is "all in one".

what you want is a camera that has high ISO capabilities AND a wide-aperture lens.

unfortunately, i've never seen a non-SLR camera with a lens with an aperture wider than about f/3
 
It seems to have a "small" sensor (1/1.7") - does anybody make this type of camera with an APS-C size sensor?

TypeAspect RatioDia. (mm)DiagonalWidthHeight1/3.6"4:37.0565.0004.0003.0001/3.2"4:37.9385.6804.5363.4161/3"4:38.4676.0004.8003.6001/2.7"4:39.4076.7215.3714.0351/2.5"4:310.160 7.1825.760 4.290 1/2.3"4:311.044 7.706.16 4.62 1/2"4:312.7008.0006.4004.8001/1.8"4:314.1118.9337.1765.3191/1.7"4:314.9419.5007.6005.7002/3"4:316.93311.0008.8006.6001"4:325.40016.00012.8009.6004/3"4:333.86722.50018.00013.5001.8" (*)3:245.720 28.40023.700 15.700*= APS-C

Well That WAS a table from:

http://www.dpreview.com/learn/?/Glossary/Camera_System/sensor_sizes_01.htm
 
Fuji 9600 is very good in low light. Lens is good too.

I disagree fella, I had a 950 (same sensor) and it was very poor in low light without the flash. High iso's are unuseable. I only kept it as long as I did because it was very good in daylight. The difference between it and my DSLR Canon 1000d is night and day, pardon the expression.
 
Why do you want such a camera may I ask? :D

Because when I go on hols / on the beach / walking etc, I want one thing to hold and no issues with "dirt on the sensor" that come from changing lenses in conditions where it is likely to collect such stuff.

Mel
 
The Panasonic LX3 is worth a look at. From "dpreview":

"The camera is aimed at DSLR users who are looking for a compact camera to complement their existing SLR gear. Consequently the LX3 comes with comprehensive manual controls and a fast F2.0-F2.8 24-60mm (35mm equivalent) Leica DC Vario-Summicron lens. Images are captured on a 1/1.63-inch CCD sensor sporting 10.1 million effective pixels. "
 

Sounds a brilliant idea BUT DPreview thinks it does not meet expectations:

" While the DP1 can produce some brilliant results in daylight it is almost completely useless in any low light situations. At higher sensitivities you'll find large amounts of chroma noise in your images and you start losing detail. Turning on the flash won't help you much either, it is very low power and takes ages to recycle. Chances are you would not be able to focus anyway. The AF gives up completely once you dim the lights and there is no AF help light on the DP1.
Speed is the second (hugely) negative factor. The DP1 is generally very (and I mean veeery) slow but the AF, shutter lag and read/write times are especially frustrating. Always think twice before you press the shutter, it'll be a while before you'll be able to take the next shot. The DP1 definitely wasn't made for spontaneous snapping or anything that requires speed of operation.

Who is it for then? ...However, If a reasonable proportion of your photography requires decent low light peformance or an acceptable speed of operation, then walk away now and keep using your DSLR for the foreseeable future."

So I guess its not for me.

Looks like a DLSR - Canon 450D do I hear!!

NEXT QUESTION - can I use my 35mm EF35-80 mm lens (+ 80-something else on an EF lens I lent to somebody) ????????

Mel
 
Just get an SLR and don't change the lens. My D40 is pretty impressive for indoor no flash shots and that's just with the kit lens, especially compared to smaller digital compacts. The auto ISO feature just ups the ISO when light level drops, and the grain really isn't a problem.
 
Looks like a DLSR - Canon 450D do I hear!!

NEXT QUESTION - can I use my 35mm EF35-80 mm lens (+ 80-something else on an EF lens I lent to somebody) ????????

Mel

I'm no expert on Canon but I think the 35-80 would work technically. But I really wouldn't see why you want to. 35mm on a canon crop is 56-58mm effective full frame. That is pretty useless.

Much better off getting the kit lens with the camera.
 
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