now MMORPG have taken off?

Glaucus · 9 Jun 2006 at 23:10

I was wondering now these games have taken off, why dont you have any games with huge warships/spaceships which litteraly need 10-20 people to fly/use them...

captin/helm/navigation/egineering/weapons ect ect...

me227 · 9 Jun 2006 at 23:16

Because it would be crap if you wanted to fly the ship and it turns out you need about 9 more people that will stay the full length of the mission, want to do the same mission and also not just be playing around and annoying people.

Glaucus · 9 Jun 2006 at 23:19

me227 said:
Because it would be crap if you wanted to fly the ship and it turns out you need about 9 more people that will stay the full length of the mission, want to do the same mission and also not just be playing around and annoying people.

yeh, but in something like eve (I assume they havent got this) where you have a clan, I would think it would be awesome to have a mobile base..

kola · 9 Jun 2006 at 23:25

AcidHell2 said:
I was wondering now these games have taken off, why dont you have any games with huge warships/spaceships which litteraly need 10-20 people to fly/use them...

captin/helm/navigation/engineering /weapons ect ect...

would be kinda of boring and every 1 would what to be on weapons

I can see it now

Captin - Lets kill this noob, fire , fire. why are we not fireing
weapons - I'm afk reading the wow boards.
Captin - crap well lets get the hell out of here, he's shooting back
helm- Which button again for autopilot , sorry just brought the game today
Captin- For god sake, engineering i need power to shields
Engineering - Yeah im on it , crap ive lost my manual any 1 can email me a copy
Captin- Omg you all suck I quit, no u cant have my stuff

Inquisitor · 9 Jun 2006 at 23:42

kola said:
would be kinda of boring and every 1 would what to be on weapons
I can see it now
Captin - Lets kill this noob, fire , fire. why are we not fireing
weapons - I'm afk reading the wow boards.
Captin - crap well lets get the hell out of here, he's shooting back
helm- Which button again for autopilot , sorry just brought the game today
Captin- For god sake, engineering i need power to shields
Engineering - Yeah im on it , crap ive lost my manual any 1 can email me a copy
Captin- Omg you all suck I quit, no u cant have my stuff

Sums it up really

Not to mention it would be very boring unless you're on the guns or at the helm.

Jack Bauer · 10 Jun 2006 at 02:37

not quite the same but I always fancyed x-wing alience online. X-wing tie fighter dog fights in teams. It just never seemed to work like I wanted it to in my head

Sleepery · 10 Jun 2006 at 08:51

Star Trek Online is going to be exactly like this, apparently.

Glaucus · 10 Jun 2006 at 11:13

Sleepery said:
Star Trek Online is going to be exactly like this, apparently.

cool apart from its star trek

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I agree with random people it would suck, but ain a clan I recon it would be good fun, It would def make you work as a team.

Zefan · 10 Jun 2006 at 11:16

I keep thinking about this, but a re-enactment of WW2 with fixed units etc and bomber crews in real time (Like 4 hours per mission). It wouldn't work at all due to disconnections, real life responibilities and such like, but it'd be ACE if it somehow did.

NickK · 10 Jun 2006 at 12:04

Sleepery said:
Star Trek Online is going to be exactly like this, apparently.

Ships piloted by 99% picards, 1% rika looking around the ship to look down the pixelated cleavage of the betazoid..

I think there will be some true trekkie clans but the gaming majority will be the above.

kdd · 10 Jun 2006 at 15:49

Sadly cooperation has not proven to be a defining characteristic of the online gaming experience, people randomly running around and doing their own thing pointlessly has.

Inquisitor · 10 Jun 2006 at 16:18

kdd said:
Sadly cooperation has not proven to be a defining characteristic of the online gaming experience, people randomly running around and doing their own thing pointlessly has.

Not necessarily... take a look at EVE for example. The amount of coordination and cooperation present in fleet battles in EVE (well, most of them...), and just alliance warfare and politics generally is fairly impressive by MMO standards.

speeduk · 10 Jun 2006 at 16:26

NickK said:
Ships piloted by 99% picards, 1% rika looking around the ship to look down the pixelated cleavage of the betazoid..

I think there will be some true trekkie clans but the gaming majority will be the above.

I think it will be pretty good. Only the kiddies will act like that - and most trek fans are at least 20 I would have thought.

Zip · 10 Jun 2006 at 16:28

Im still waiting for an MMORPG Thats set in the medievil era and doesnt have bloody magic and spells and other BS in it :rolleyes:

In other words, A realistic one

Inquisitor · 10 Jun 2006 at 16:40

Zip said:
Im still waiting for an MMORPG Thats set in the medievil era and doesnt have bloody magic and spells and other BS in it

In other words, A realistic one

That wouldn't work. If it was realistic, then there would be no quests, no super-natural stuff, it would basically just be medieval history in a game, a la Total War, but where you're playing the soldier, and no one would find that fun.

Zip · 10 Jun 2006 at 16:46

Inquisitor said:
That wouldn't work. If it was realistic, then there would be no quests, no super-natural stuff, it would basically just be medieval history in a game, a la Total War, but where you're playing the soldier, and no one would find that fun.

I would find it fun

It would be kinda like Dynasty warriors(With out the killing fans and crap magic orbs) meets Total war meets Rise and Fall

The ability to Fight as a Single person(a ruler/king) and grow an Army and civilization and tell them how to fight and control them and then go out an crush every one and there towns

In an MMORPG so its like a world with heaps of armys and citys :cool:

kdd · 10 Jun 2006 at 18:49

Inquisitor said:
Not necessarily... take a look at EVE for example. The amount of coordination and cooperation present in fleet battles in EVE (well, most of them...), and just alliance warfare and politics generally is fairly impressive by MMO standards.

Well i was speaking in general, there's always exceptions though eve is noted for having a community more mature in every sense than most. Play a bit of bf2 or css and i'm sure you'll be acquainted with what i mean!

Inquisitor · 10 Jun 2006 at 19:24

kdd said:
Well i was speaking in general, there's always exceptions though eve is noted for having a community more mature in every sense than most. Play a bit of bf2 or css and i'm sure you'll be acquainted with what i mean!

I play both BF2 and CSS, but they aren't MMOs

However, I do agree that in the majority of online games, cooperation and coordination aren't that common.

Glaucus · 10 Jun 2006 at 20:14

Inquisitor said:
cooperation and coordination aren't that common.

I think theres plenty of both in all the MMORG I've played. But no BF2 and games like that you won't. You dont have to invest time in them, you dont have to join guilds ect.

Inquisitor · 10 Jun 2006 at 20:20

AcidHell2 said:
I think theres plenty of both in all the MMORG I've played.

Most likely not to the level that you'd need in order to actually have decent battles in large, multi-player cap ships though. Again, EVE might be the exception here

The biggest problem though, is that players value their autonomy and independance in games. If they can only control part of a ship, then they're going to feel bored and restricted.