NTL/Telewest are port throttling

Being in an armchair will prevent me from shopping untill I get up ;) Tiscali are well known for using pathetically low caps on max lines and FUP'ing anyone who dares to browse for more than 2minutes, you sure it wasn't them ?

From what i've seen on the subject if your friend is on cable in the North West on 10mbit then he may be limited to 5mbit from p2p or UNET, nothing to do with browsing.

Most (good) news providers offer alternate non standard ports for exactly this sort of reason.
 
lol you know what i meant

I cant remember the provider, I consider the problem a general one. Im with pipex, as far as I can make out Im ok if I avoid using p2p in the evenings.

I havent used tiscali since they took over screaming.net. One of the first totally unlimited providers, it was all down hill from there
 
Im on Telewest 10Mb (previously 20Mb but looks like the trial has finished)

Traffic shaping is inevitable as ISP's have only two choices as 'per user' bandwidth usage increases massively as time goes by and new delivery technologies are released.

1) Increase subscription charges to compensate (probably double or triple etc)
2) Introduce traffic management to the network to prioritise P2P traffic at peak times etc

I have no problem with peak time P2P traffic shaping as anything I wish to download can be scheduled off peak, as long as web, email, voip and gaming traffic are top speed (maximum priority).

The annoying thing about traffic shaping is the amount of ISP's that dont have properly configured traffic shaping systems, so anything other than recognised packets gets by default - (heavily) traffic shaped. For example common apps and games such as TS, Ventrilo, Eve Online ( :) ), BF2/2142 etc
 
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Im on Stockton-On-Tees and the port throttling has been happening to me since before November. It started around September, maybe before and its happening to a friend that lives in Middlesbrough.

My connection drops to around 1mb at times and im supposed to be on 10mb lmao.

As for the 50mb... 10mb is more than enough as there is only so much you can do with a fast internet connection before it becomes illegal. There 10mb has been terrible and all I can say to the 50mb is that im glad my contract is up in February!

Edit: As for it only being P2P software and other similar things that are affected, thats a load of crap because when peak times come (which in same cases starts from 4pm here) anything I use my connection for suffers as low as 1mb.
 
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Jake000 - The post relates to (old) Telewest/Blueyonder, as your in Stockton-on-tees you're (old) NTL, the two co's did merge but unified systems are a long way off. Port throttling on NTL is a different issue and has been going on a lot longer, now it looks like BY is going down the same route but it has nothing to do with the connection issues you refer to as stated above it's (former)Telewest.
 
droolinggimp said:
(free btw never paid for it not one penny over the last 14 months :D )
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Skiddley said:
Bizzarely, I haven't been charged by NTL for 5 months and counting now. Thankyou Mr NTL. :D
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I've been on ntl (10mb) for 2 months now and havent paid a penny either. What happens if I were to move house and close the bank account it was coming from? Anyway they can catch up with you?

With regard to the OP, I havent noticed any change with regards to surfing the internet, speed testers are still reporting normal speeds as well. But I have noticed that torrents are not working as well. In uTorrent I cant get connected to any seeders/peers, it states how many there are but never connects to any, it also tells me the trackers are offline for all the torrents i was downloading, even though there are over 1000 seeders for some files. I tried with bitComet also which does eventually connect but downloads at much slower speeds. However I havent really tested this thoroughly, i may just have dodgy torrents. Will report back after some testing!

I live in Readin btw.
 
I can't comment on NTL billing but the TW legal standpoint was that if funds were not requested within a period of 3 months from the date due then the customer was not liable to make payment of anything older than that from the point funds were requested. I've seen it a few times with PPV's when the box's didn't poll or someone did something they shouldn't *cough*

As for them catching up with you *if* the account was generating charges and bills it'd be TOS'd and then soft disc'd within 3-4 months and after that eventually sold to a debt collection agency for an agreed percentage. They have a nasty habbit of popping up when you least expect it and demanding payment.

Sormicroft is your best bet on here for NTL as he is/was NTL staff assuming they haven't arsed up his contract again.
 
chimaera said:
To be fair if one person is absolutely milking the connection and affecting other people then theres nothing wrong with port throttling, if its just because they can't be bothered to provide a decent service then its wrong.
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I'm paying £35 a month for a service that is advertised as 10mbps "unlimited". If I want to use that 10mbps all day, all night, why should I have my service crippled? They advertise an unlimited service, then I should get one for my money.
 
To be fair, they should just advertise better and make it clear, the service is throttled.

Port throttling means that the service is unlimited, its just not fast enough ,

It was never advertised that you will get the full 10mbps all the time anyways

sid
 
sid said:
To be fair, they should just advertise better and make it clear, the service is throttled.

Port throttling means that the service is unlimited, its just not fast enough ,

It was never advertised that you will get the full 10mbps all the time anyways

sid
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It's advertised as Unlimited always on broadband.

From their website:

"Unlimited usage – surf as much as you want"

It does not say "Unlimited usage - apart from when we don't want you to"

I'd be happy if they just advertised it correctly and were honest, because then at least before I signed up I could look for other providers who are.
 
hmm how do you turn on Encryption for P2P software? Utorrent only has Encrypt Uploads? (so i can see)

my NTL 2mb also seems "slower" than my previous 256K ADSL did for gaming! right now on BF2 i have a handful of servers which i ping and come back 0ms, a few that say 48ms, and the rest are like 150ms+! what is that about?!

i have maxed out my connection on D/L's on occasion, but my torrents seem to sit at between 6k and 16k on the D/L even when 20+seeds!

so:/ bit miffed...
 
Game pings wont be affected by bandwidth. You can ping a game server ip from within windows and that'll show it well enough, in fact thats probably more accurate then the game browser.

Ping 85.236.101.109 which is the bf2 50k server and I get average 19ms. Which is very good imo
Who was your previous host, pipex are mine. Ive used ntl and found them to be ok in the past. Your own equipment can alter how good your ping is, an internal pci card is fastest I believe

I think bitcomet will do encryption but you wont get high speed downloads very often. Ive had it a few times when downloading a few things just released
 
Yep we were on that same service, unfortunately its resembling the tale of the tortoise and the hare at the moment.

Start > Run > cmd > Ping 85.236.101.109


Also you could do the same with tracert to give an idea of each data packets path to its destination


heres mine for comparison
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms SpeedTouch.lan [10.0.0.138]
2 7 ms 8 ms 8 ms glo-2-dsl.as9105.net [212.74.111.191]
3 8 ms 8 ms 8 ms ge1-2-27.glo0.as9105.net [212.74.106.106]
4 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms pos0-0.bri1.as9105.net [212.74.108.162]
5 13 ms 13 ms 12 ms ge0-0-0.he-lon0.as9105.net [212.74.109.14]
6 13 ms 13 ms 13 ms ge0-2-22.man4.as9105.net [212.74.106.54]
7 13 ms 14 ms 12 ms ge-6-1-0.lon22.ip.tiscali.net [213.200.78.233]
8 13 ms 14 ms 13 ms so-0-1-0.lon11.ip.tiscali.net [213.200.80.29]
9 17 ms 14 ms 15 ms multiplay-gw-2.ip.tiscali.net [213.200.78.86]
10 15 ms 14 ms 13 ms po0-1-651-cr.ixnlon.as35028.net [85.236.110.11]

11 13 ms 13 ms 14 ms opt33.multiplay.co.uk [85.236.101.109]
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Multiplay is hosted by tiscali :eek: :confused:
 
25ms is fine then :) There must be a really popular easy torrent for you try for testing, I dont know what to suggest though. Ive had 300k once but mostly I get 20-60k, mostly 20k.
Maximum speed download Ive had was bf2 patch from gamershell which came down 730k on average, 500 meg in like 10 mins :D

Are you limiting upload try allowing upto 30k, too much and it'll stop you downloading though. Netlimiter will show your traffic
 
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