NumLock is on when PC boots

cats_five · 16 Mar 2015 at 22:38

This is very annoying, I've re-installed Windows several times on the PC over the years and after some installations when the PC boots the NumLock on the PC is on, after other installations it's off.

Any clues, anyone, please?

At least I seem to have a stable PC now I've got good RAM!

Sandycheeks · 16 Mar 2015 at 22:40

Could it be the keyboard ?, try another if you can.

cats_five · 16 Mar 2015 at 22:45

Keyboard is fine so far as I know. Once I've turned NumLock off it stays off. And once the behaviour is established following an install it's consistent. I've had it both ways during the recent upgrade of fire.

hyperseven · 16 Mar 2015 at 22:47

thought numlock on boot was a BIOS option?

pepp77 · 16 Mar 2015 at 22:48

hyperseven said:
thought numlock on boot was a BIOS option?

Mynight · 16 Mar 2015 at 22:49

Sorry but lol.

You can change it with a registry edit;

1. Run Registry Editor.
2. Move to HKEY_USERS\.Default\Control Panel\Keyboard.
3. Change the value for InitialKeyboardIndicators to 0.
I take no responsibility if you break anything else though.

It Apparantly saves the state from the last shutdown. Ie if it's on when you shutdown it will be on when you boot up again.

azibux1 · 16 Mar 2015 at 23:15

Windows 8? Despite any BIOS settings, with windows 8 if I had fast boot enabled (windows setting, not a BIOS setting) it would boot up with numlock off

Aston998 · 16 Mar 2015 at 23:21

Mynight said:
Sorry but lol.

You can change it with a registry edit;

1. Run Registry Editor.
2. Move to HKEY_USERS\.Default\Control Panel\Keyboard.
3. Change the value for InitialKeyboardIndicators to 0.
I take no responsibility if you break anything else though.

It Apparantly saves the state from the last shutdown. Ie if it's on when you shutdown it will be on when you boot up again.

+1

azibux1 · 16 Mar 2015 at 23:52

Mynight said:
Sorry but lol.

You can change it with a registry edit;

1. Run Registry Editor.
2. Move to HKEY_USERS\.Default\Control Panel\Keyboard.
3. Change the value for InitialKeyboardIndicators to 0.
I take no responsibility if you break anything else though.

It Apparantly saves the state from the last shutdown. Ie if it's on when you shutdown it will be on when you boot up again.

0 is presumably num lock off on boot?

Mynight · 17 Mar 2015 at 00:00

Indeed and 2 is on. No idea what 1 is presumably delete everything and crash

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azibux1 · 17 Mar 2015 at 00:13

Mynight said:
Indeed and 2 is on. No idea what 1 is presumably delete everything and crash .

Haha thanks

cats_five · 17 Mar 2015 at 00:47

Thanks will try this. Its w7 not w8.

MrMD · 17 Mar 2015 at 00:50

Dunno if its relevant here,but many motherboard bios'es have a setting that Activates/deactivates numpad function at boot/post.

Could be that?

Mynight · 17 Mar 2015 at 01:09

MrMD said:
Dunno if its relevant here,but many motherboard bios'es have a setting that Activates/deactivates numpad function at boot/post.

Could be that?

Some of them do. Just checked mine and it doesn't

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Guess it depends on which mobo OP has.

I must ask though, why or even how is it annoying?

cats_five · 17 Mar 2015 at 07:03

Have to turn it off to logon. I guess its more annoying during the multiple boot of installing w7 with all the reboots than in normal use. Its also perplexing that the behaviour has been different after different reinstalls.

cats_five · 17 Mar 2015 at 09:05

Mynight said:
Sorry but lol.

You can change it with a registry edit;

1. Run Registry Editor.
2. Move to HKEY_USERS\.Default\Control Panel\Keyboard.
3. Change the value for InitialKeyboardIndicators to 0.
I take no responsibility if you break anything else though.

It Apparantly saves the state from the last shutdown. Ie if it's on when you shutdown it will be on when you boot up again.

It was 2147483648!

dhallam · 17 Mar 2015 at 09:51

What motherboard do you have? as normally as others have said it may be in the bios settings, if you let me know the motherboard i may be able to help.

azibux1 · 17 Mar 2015 at 11:56

cats_five said:
It was 2147483648!

See below:

In HKEY_USERS\.Default\Control Panel\Keyboard, 2147483648 decimal value equals 0x8000 0000 in hexadecimal, it may not be a weird value.
It sets the highest weight bit. I think it means not to overwrite the last NUM LOCK state saved in HKCU\Control Panel\Keyboard\InitialKeyboardIndicators.
Setting this value to 2 switches NumLock ON, regardless of the state at logoff or shutdown.
I will check that !

cats_five · 17 Mar 2015 at 15:42

dhallam said:
What motherboard do you have? as normally as others have said it may be in the bios settings, if you let me know the motherboard i may be able to help.

The registry edit someone else gave worked but thanks.

Mynight · 17 Mar 2015 at 16:27

cats_five said:
Have to turn it off to logon. I guess its more annoying during the multiple boot of installing w7 with all the reboots than in normal use. Its also perplexing that the behaviour has been different after different reinstalls.

Argh right. I've never come across that before. In which case I withdraw my 'lol' you were perfectly resonable to find that annoying.

Glad it's fixed.