Nutritional info on food labels and servings/portions?

It's the government trying to force the food industry to take responsibility for people with no self control. Eat a grab bag of crisps and a full sugar Coke if you're not obese. If you are, don't. Simple :cry:
 
I don't agree with that, it's companies trying to hide the actual calorie content of their food/drink. People are trying to be responsible and read the nutritional info but that info is deliberately misleading.
 
And that's the thing - if they did remove the serving size, and a bag of crisps was in actual fact deemed to be a single serving (because it clearly is), and the traffic light label was all red - I'd be fine with it.

Actually, I'm not sure the crisps would, at least not the hula hoops - the crisps would go amber, green, green, amber (fat, saturates, sugars, salt) if they used traffic lights.

The smoothie on the other hand would be green, green, red, green - basically no fat or slat but loads of sugar... in the case of the smoothie they definitely want to avoid that as they try to market them as being healthy when they've got more calories/sugar than typical soft drinks these days.

I’m appalled at Dowies choice of snack.

Hula hoops are rank.

What? No way, they're a classic crisp-like snack! Large beef hula hoops in a grab bag are great - usually, grab them or some Real Mccoys.

Always make sure to get a triple sandwich (if buying a sandwich) or one of the big pasta things to get your money's worth - they're like £2.75 alone. And the drink has to be a Naked smoothie or a protein shake or a Starbucks latte thingie as they're all circa £2.50 or £2.75 each too.

Tesco meal deal for £3 is decent value - or perhaps looking at it the other way, the individual items are a rip-off if bought alone.

Like who picks up a £2.75 sandwich and just buys that by itself when for 25p more you can get a drink + a bag of crisps.

"clearly"... To a point, sure, they aren't "hiding" the information as such, but it's certainly obfuscated, if you have two 50g packs of crisps in front of you, one saying 50cal and one saying 30cal, you shouldn't have to have to read the small print and get the calculator out to establish that the 30cal one is actually worse because the "serving size" on that one is 25g, whereas the 50cal "serving size" is the whole pack.

Exactly - it isn't clear at all, it's hidden in the small print, which seems to be intentional.

A meal for two, explicitly marketed as such on the packaging is clear, a "portion" or "serving" then detailing nutritional info for half the contents makes sense. A small smoothie on the other hand is just a total bluff for the manufacturer to claim "2-3" servings.
 
Always make sure to get a triple sandwich (if buying a sandwich) or one of the big pasta things to get your money's worth - they're like £2.75 alone. And the drink has to be a Naked smoothie or a protein shake or a Starbucks latte thingie as they're all circa £2.50 or £2.75 each too.

Tesco meal deal for £3 is decent value - or perhaps looking at it the other way, the individual items are a rip-off if bought alone.

Like who picks up a £2.75 sandwich and just buys that by itself when for 25p more you can get a drink + a bag of crisps.

Heh, place I used to work we would compete to see who could get the highest value £3 meal deal from the local Tesco, iirc the record was something stupid like £8
 
The biggest issue is the total lack of evidence of food/menu labelling having any sort of positive impact on health outcomes. If this thread is anything to go by it’s actually making the issue worse by misleading people into consuming a whole pack of something that’s only “healthy” in a much smaller serving.
 
The biggest issue is the total lack of evidence of food/menu labelling having any sort of positive impact on health outcomes. If this thread is anything to go by it’s actually making the issue worse by misleading people into consuming a whole pack of something that’s only “healthy” in a much smaller serving.

I find the story of the Cobra Effect interesting:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobra_effect

The effect is definitely true. The origin of the name being true is less certain.
 
We kinda know how to eat right but it requires a bit of work to change habits etc. I'm 6'4" and was 110kgs at peak weight, changed diet (correct portions, wholefoods, less processed stuff) and started exercise (cycling and later also the gym classes), my weight went to 78kgs and I reached a point where I could go back to eating almost anything I wanted.

I grew up in the 80s/90s when no one cared about sugar or calories (at least AFAIK). Today kids are way more aware of sugar and calories in foods which I think can only be a good thing. Sure, the info on food is confusing, but crisps are pretty much bad for you, but they taste nice :) smoothies are liquid fruit, so is just a natural sugar bomb, hence the reason why there are so many portions in one bottle.

Meal deal : "this will taste really nice and is a bargain but you will pay for this in other ways muhahah" ;)

Usually the biggest change to a diet is portion control, its a shock to the system for about 4 weeks while you adjust to much smaller meals, then its fine and eating bigger meals feels weird.
 
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Imagine the traffic light system on a whole papa john's xxl. With stuffed crust? :D

It'd be so high it would be skull and cross bones!

Still, it is a single serving!
 
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