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NVIDIA 5000 SERIES

This could be the prototype to the 5090 looking at PCB.

It's quite clearly a prototype/experiment for the 4090, not the 5090.

MFG could be a big deal for those of us with 360hz plus monitors, also interested in testing a pulsar monitor later in the year to see if that takes things even further for motion clarity. Decided I'll get a 5080 and a 5090 as I may not need the 5090 if MFG works well from a good base native frame rate. So using both on the same display from separate PC's will be a fun little test.

Going to be interesting to see how many of the supported games I can get to 480hz and if I notice issues or not.

But people have 360Hz monitors for very fast paced games and MFG isn't going to improve reaction times. They can waffle on about latency and frame pacing all they like but, if only one frame in four is actually being generated by the game engine, then the game engine isn't going to respond to your inputs on the three "fake" frames in between, hence why it'll feel like the "native" framerate.

How are 4090 owners expecting to sell second hand 4090's at anywhere near a grand? :cry: . The 5080 is clearly a better purchase even with less vram due to new compression tech. And you're getting a brand new card!!! I predict 4090's will be worth a lot less on the used market in a few weeks especially as a lot of people will be fooled by Nvidia's dodgy marketing re the 5070 which will affect the 4090 value even more. Kind of done 4090 owners a dirty really.

I'm expecting to sell my 3090 for fifty quid.

The 5080 will be slower than the 4090 in raw performance and with less VRAM. I predict a lot of people will be looking at a used 4090 over a new 5080.
 
How are 4090 owners expecting to sell second hand 4090's at anywhere near a grand? :cry: . The 5080 is clearly a better purchase even with less vram due to new compression tech. And you're getting a brand new card!!! I predict 4090's will be worth a lot less on the used market in a few weeks especially as a lot of people will be fooled by Nvidia's dodgy marketing re the 5070 which will affect the 4090 value even more. Kind of done 4090 owners a dirty really.

I'm expecting to sell my 3090 for fifty quid.
You are writing a lot of drivel. :p
 
The 5080 will be slower than the 4090 in raw performance and with less VRAM. I predict a lot of people will be looking at a used 4090 over a new 5080.
Even if that's true (which I don't think it will be once cards are properly tested, but we'll soon find out - I predict it will match or be slightly faster than 4090), what do you think people are going to be willing to pay for a second hand 4090 when they can get a brand new 5080 for £1k...or even a 5070 with MFG for less than £600 that Jensen promised the gullible peeps matched 4090 performance???
 
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I see the first 3d mark scores supposedly leaked out on chiphell forums

3D Mark Timespy Extreme: Leak shows the RTX5090 scores 22% higher than RTX4090.

That is probably one of, if not the lowest generational uplift in Timespy ever recorded for a new Nvidia flagship card

Here is some other 3D Timespy uplifts between generations

1080ti to 2080ti: 34% uplift
2080ti to 3090: 48% uplift
3090 to 4090: 73% uplift
4090 to 5090: 22% uplift :cry:
I would assume the new drivers have not been supplied yet which is common practice until reveal time

but it might stay the same
 
I see the first 3d mark scores supposedly leaked out on chiphell forums

3D Mark Timespy Extreme: Leak shows the RTX5090 scores 22% higher than RTX4090.

That is probably one of, if not the lowest generational uplift in Timespy ever recorded for a new Nvidia flagship card

Here is some other 3D Timespy uplifts between generations

1080ti to 2080ti: 34% uplift
2080ti to 3090: 48% uplift
3090 to 4090: 73% uplift
4090 to 5090: 22% uplift :cry:
1080ti 16nm
2080ti 12nm
3090 8nm
4090 5nm
5090 4nm

I think we've reached the end of big generational jumps. I Expect the 60 series to be around the same uplift from 5090 in percentage terms.
 
I wounder if the thermal grizzly vireview will fit in the power connection as they look like most cards it's resesed, and the cablemod 90 degree connecter.

The Cablemod 90° connectors were discontinued and recalled by Cablemod due to a mounting amount of failures. I had one of their newer ones fail on me personally, as did a friend I know. The only cables I now trust are the PSU suppliers or Nvidia's (although a very unaesthetically pleasing solution). Whole thing is still frustrating though, all these years building PC's and never had a cable cause (or potentially cause) so many issues. :p
 
How are 4090 owners expecting to sell second hand 4090's at anywhere near a grand? :cry: . The 5080 is clearly a better purchase even with less vram due to new compression tech. And you're getting a brand new card!!! I predict 4090's will be worth a lot less on the used market in a few weeks especially as a lot of people will be fooled by Nvidia's dodgy marketing re the 5070 which will affect the 4090 value even more. Kind of done 4090 owners a dirty really.

I'm expecting to sell my 3090 for fifty quid.

Well one just sold on the MM for over £1100 and that's a few hundred lower than they're going for on eBay.

What price are you predicting they're going to drop to in the next few weeks? If they were going to crash in value they'd have already done so since the announcement.

I'll just say it, you're living in a fantasy land if you think they're going to drop to the used prices the 3090s did after the 4 series announcement/release.
 
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I suppose £1400 is still a bit high considering in a few weeks you'll be able to get a new card that performs about the same in raster, supports new features, and has a new warranty for £1000. And the less VRAM on 5080 may turn out to not be as much a concern it looks (although I wouldn't bet any horses on that). That, and I suppose most 4090 owners are looking to upgrade to 5090.

5080 - 10,752 cores
4090 - 16,384 cores

Even with a generational bump in performance per core there is no chance the 5080 performs about the same as a 4090. Add to that the 4090 has more vram, with higher bandwidth. A second hand 4090 with warranty still remaining will be a better purchase than a 5080 if they're equally priced.


How are 4090 owners expecting to sell second hand 4090's at anywhere near a grand? :cry: . The 5080 is clearly a better purchase even with less vram due to new compression tech. And you're getting a brand new card!!! I predict 4090's will be worth a lot less on the used market in a few weeks especially as a lot of people will be fooled by Nvidia's dodgy marketing re the 5070 which will affect the 4090 value even more. Kind of done 4090 owners a dirty really.

I'm expecting to sell my 3090 for fifty quid.

Sounds like you're being fooled by Nvidia's dodgy marketing lol
 
4090 is still an exceptional card, and that won't change after Jan 30. It may not be enabled for the new-fangled features to play with, or push the envelope as far in AI, but does that really matter playing in game?

That said, I wouldn't pay more than £1200 for one at this point all things considered.

One just sold for £1130 on members market. Incredible. I would feel mugged. Might as well as got it brand new at release then pay that for an used older gen card.
 
5080 - 10,752 cores
4090 - 16,384 cores

Even with a generational bump in performance per core there is no chance the 5080 performs about the same as a 4090. Add to that the 4090 has more vram, with higher bandwidth. A second hand 4090 with warranty still remaining will be a better purchase than a 5080 if they're equally priced.




Sounds like you're being fooled by Nvidia's dodgy marketing lol
convince someone on fb market place that a 4090 is worth a 5070 before the benchmarks are out.
 
How are 4090 owners expecting to sell second hand 4090's at anywhere near a grand? :cry:

know it's a bit tongue in cheek but they will still make great pro cards for rendering, game dev etc



twice the performance to things like the 3090 or the new m4max macbooks etc
 
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know it's a bit tongue in cheek but they will still make great pro cards for rendering, game dev etc

Likely to still be the 2nd best GPU for gaming overall as well, there may be a few scenarios where a 5080 edges it if you make use of all the new technology, but it looks nowhere near strong enough to take the 2nd spot.
 
Depends on your setup too and if you're planning on using MFG or not. If the 5090 can get 240FPS, and the 5080 can get 200FPS, but you're using a 120hz screen, they're essentially the same card :p

I don't mind frame gen if it's coming from a playable number in normal raster. My new oled gets to 144fps. I usually play at 4k, I suppose I could use dlss quality more if needed.
 
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