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NVIDIA 5000 SERIES

One thing the 5080 will have going for it this gen is that it'll be better value than the 5090.

The 5090 will probably be in the region of 40-50% faster for 100% more money.

Yeah, the 5080 looks better value this round. Though I suspect it’s because it can’t beat the 4090 on sheer brute force. This could be the first time in memory that the new 80 class has not beat the old 90 class (or equivalent).

Nvidia are really going to push the fake frames and Ai narrative as reasons to upgrade.
 
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I'm wary of trying to get Asus TUF or Gigabyte or any of the other popular brands, or any cards that are OC out of the box, they will be hotly contested when preorders open and pretty much immediately out of stock. I'm going for one of the lesser known brands for this very reason. When I tried to get the 3080 TUF OC years ago, it was immediately out of stock and OCUK actually never restocked it again, just the non-OC version. Be wary
 
Due to the 5080 already using the full 203 then if Nvidia does a mid gen refresh then you can almost certainly expect a 5080ti on the GB202, the bad news though it that there is no chance this will be $1000.
 
I have a 3090 Suprim X
(Shockingly paid £2,150 for during COVID)

Is it worth upgrading now or wait for 6 series.
I was thinking of maybe changing to the 5080, so I don't get burnt as much.

IMO it depends on whether you’re intending to get (or already have got) a high refresh OLED monitor. You probably won’t be making the most of that with a 30 series card.
 
Due to the 5080 already using the full 203 then if Nvidia does a mid gen refresh then you can almost certainly expect a 5080ti on the GB202, the bad news though it that there is no chance this will be $1000.

My guess is the 5080ti will be $1500 and probably 10% faster than the 4090, which would make it 35% faster than the 5080 for 50% more money
 
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If tech advancement stagnates/stops I think it will actually be a good thing in the gaming space. Prices would drop. hardware would last longer and devs could better optimise for a narrower performance window.
 
I'm wary of trying to get Asus TUF or Gigabyte or any of the other popular brands, or any cards that are OC out of the box, they will be hotly contested when preorders open and pretty much immediately out of stock. I'm going for one of the lesser known brands for this very reason. When I tried to get the 3080 TUF OC years ago, it was immediately out of stock and OCUK actually never restocked it again, just the non-OC version. Be wary

Yeah the TUF was in high demand as it was such a good card yet (supposedly) an MSRP card.

I actually got mine through the MM, albeit brand new and unopened.

Still have it in my other machine, doubt I'll ever sell it.
 
+24gb vram

The only way a 5080Ti could challenge a 4090 is if it was using a GB202 chip, in which case it's likely it'd be using the same board as the 5090 with its 512-bit bus, much like the 3080Ti used the 3090 board and bus.

In this case the memory could only be 16GB or 32GB, 24GB isn't possible on a 512-bit bus.
 
3DCenter's (fallible) performance forecast for the GeForce RTX 50 series (4K raster, no DLSS/FG)



4090 ➡️ 5090 +34-41%
4080S ➡️ 5080 +13-19%
4080 ➡️ 5080 +16-22%
4070TiS ➡️ 5070Ti +10-16%
4070Ti ➡️ 5070Ti +20-27%
4070S ➡️ 5070 +3-11%
4070 ➡️ 5070 +19-29%


Unlike the previous framerate analysis, these numbers are pure speculation and also after a quick cursory glance, their supporting data doesn't make any sense at all, it looks like no one even proof read it, errors Linus would do in a benchmark
 
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Unlike the previous framerate analysis, these numbers are pure speculation and also after a quick cursory glance, their supporting data doesn't make any sense at all

Ignoring the provenance of their figures, they actually look quite reasonable to me and I think that's how it'll pan out.
 
3DCenter's (fallible) performance forecast for the GeForce RTX 50 series (4K raster, no DLSS/FG)



4090 ➡️ 5090 +34-41%
4080S ➡️ 5080 +13-19%
4080 ➡️ 5080 +16-22%
4070TiS ➡️ 5070Ti +10-16%
4070Ti ➡️ 5070Ti +20-27%
4070S ➡️ 5070 +3-11%
4070 ➡️ 5070 +19-29%

This puts the 5080 at about 10% slower than a 4090. Depending what you are upgrading from your £1000 may be seen as a solid upgrade. As a 4080 owner myself, it’s all very meh if true. If you are coming from a 3080 or 3090 then it’s a great upgrade.
 
That may be, but the individual game performance they estimate to get to these numbers are bizarre

Nvidia’s own marketing slides lend some credibility to these estimates if we look at the Far Cry 6 numbers. On the Nvidia slide the 4070Ti to 5070Ti in pure raster is about 25%. In Far Cry a 4080 is about 25% faster than a 4070Ti at 4K according to TPU. If the estimated 4070Ti to 5070Ti performance is accurate, it tallies with both the TPU performance charts and Nvidia’s own slides.

So expect the 5070Ti to just about match a 4080 or 4080s. If accurate then we are seeing a roughly 25% price/perf increase this gen from Nvidia, which is better than the 4000 series at least. Well apart from the 5090 which is paying for any additional performance.
 
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Unlike the previous framerate analysis, these numbers are pure speculation and also after a quick cursory glance, their supporting data doesn't make any sense at all, it looks like no one even proof read it, errors Linus would do in a benchmark
Isn’t the supporting numbers nvidia’s chart for far cry 6, 3d marks time spy and speed way?
 
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