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NVIDIA 5000 SERIES

cliffy said:
This comment makes no sense. While I am uncomfortable with the power draw of the 5090 on a single cable you are comparing desktop parts with a mobile phone. Clearly with a mobile defice battery is a huge factor so efficency of its componets is king. With enthusiast / high end dresktop parts I couldnt care less about power draw ( as long as connectors are up to it)
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Of course it makes sense. Just because a device uses battery or is wired to the wall doesn't mean power efficiency can just go out the window.

Power efficiency should be one of the main bullet points on that board when the GPU is in the design stage. It's almost like Nvidia just went screw the power efficiency.

Imagine this GPU generation without frame gen or upscale technology you be looking at some very disappointing releases for the past 5 years.

I do wounder if upscale technology is making a difference when designing a GPU these days. Nvidia seemed to talk a lot about this when comparing 5080 to the 4090 like it's ground breaking engineering.
 
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Gerard said:
Everyone was oohing and aahing over the video showing the cooler design and how parts of the pcb are connected by ribbon cables for airflow purposes....but it doesn't really seem to be upto the job.

They done a whole lot of unnecessary bs when they could have went with a thicker cooler. Yes the small pcb is impressive but it's like a condensed hot spot and memory temps aren't great either, regardless of the memory modules being able to handle more heat, it's preferable to have them cooler.
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One of the most valuable companies in the world and they come up with that idea.
 
cliffy said:
This comment makes no sense. While I am uncomfortable with the power draw of the 5090 on a single cable you are comparing desktop parts with a mobile phone. Clearly with a mobile defice battery is a huge factor so efficency of its componets is king. With enthusiast / high end dresktop parts I couldnt care less about power draw ( as long as connectors are up to it)
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He cares, because once upon a time his beloved company were given a hard time about it and he wants justice :p
 
ne0 said:
5090 = 4090 Ti
5080 = 4080 Super Ti

The end
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FTFY
I expecting the 4000 Supers will make the 5000 series look pointless. Heck some of them may still potentially beat the equivalent 5000 series :cry:

Hostile_18 said:
There's something about a 6080 at 5090 levels that runs silent and low power draw that really appeals. Plus you'd have two cards (realistically you'd likely sell one after 6080 secured).
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When this generation nobody is even getting a 5080 that comes close to a 4090... good luck with next gens 80 tier beating this gens 90. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if a 6080 was still falling behing a 4090 :D
 
Absolutely Clueless said:
Don't joke! You may will it on into existence. Jensen is watching all of us.
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Find out in a few days if it turns out to be true. Heck, I'm not even joking, those are my serious expectations.

Given how the 5090 only managed some gains over 4090 by increasing CUDA cores etc... a similarly scaling 5080 would be ~10% over a base 4080. Unless they use AI framegen fakery, no chance a 5080 with the specs they announced would come close to a 4090.
 
shankly1985 said:
Of course it makes sense. Just because a device uses battery or is wired to the wall doesn't mean power efficiency can just go out the window.

Power efficiency should be one of the main bullet points on that board when the GPU is in the design stage. It's almost like Nvidia just went screw the power efficiency.

Imagine this GPU generation without frame gen or upscale technology you be looking at some very disappointing releases for the past 5 years.

I do wounder if upscale technology is making a difference when designing a GPU these days. Nvidia seemed to talk a lot about this when comparing 5080 to the 4090 like it's ground breaking engineering.
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I genuinely care not about efficency of a desktop part providing it is safe (connectors) and if I am honest i think it was obvious based on the lack of node change that we were not going to see a uplift in performance similar to that of 3090 to 4090 and i do not think we will again it was a one off as i do not see node size dropping by such a margin again but i had hoped we would see 5090 with dual power connectors as i do not like the amount of juice a single connector is being expected to pull and the heat it is generatiomng

I also absolutley think we have now fully moved into the era of AI making up most of the improvemnets generationally, the introdution of DLSS and FSR a couplke generations ago was the start, now we have 4x Frame gen with Nvidia claiming they are aiming for 16x tells me future generatiosn improvements will be based more and more on AI which in turn could potentially lower the power usage i guess and hopefully in the not to distant future we will not notice the difference between native and AI frames but for now we have 3 choices, don't upgrade, stick with consoles or just roll with the flow
 
Curtis vincent said:
Can't see that happening. People know what ballpark the prices for 50 series will be and used 4090's are still going on ebay for upwards of 1400 more than a few sold for over 1500 today. This is only a week out from launch
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Do you honestly think the 4090 SECOND HAND is going to still be selling for £500 less than a BRAND NEW 5090 soon? Come on now.... Give it a couple of months for things to settle and we'll start seeing more sensible used prices I reckon.
 
cliffy said:
I genuinely care not about efficency of a desktop part providing it is safe (connectors) and if I am honest i think it was obvious based on the lack of node change that we were not going to see a uplift in performance similar to that of 3090 to 4090 and i do not think we will again it was a one off as i do not see node size dropping by such a margin again but i had hoped we would see 5090 with dual power connectors as i do not like the amount of juice a single connector is being expected to pull and the heat it is generatiomng

I also absolutley think we have now fully moved into the era of AI making up most of the improvemnets generationally, the introdution of DLSS and FSR a couplke generations ago was the start, now we have 4x Frame gen with Nvidia claiming they are aiming for 16x tells me future generatiosn improvements will be based more and more on AI which in turn could potentially lower the power usage i guess and hopefully in the not to distant future we will not notice the difference between native and AI frames but for now we have 3 choices, don't upgrade, stick with consoles or just roll with the flow
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it's gonna be like phones iphone 6, then a year later iphone 6 plus. With TSMC being 6 months ahead on 3nm I don't think we'll see a 50 series refresh surely there's not much more they can do on 4nm as proven with this launch.
 
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