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NVIDIA 5000 SERIES

Hmmmph! Obviously I wish the 5000 series cards had stronger raw fps improvements from the 4000 series, but I'm actually quite liking the feel of the frame gen thing. I've not tried the official 5000 series frame gen yet, but my step son showed me something similar (but perhaps more input lag) and it felt like it created the illusion pretty well on cyberpunk. It reminded me of absolutely years ago playing glquake online (quake 1 essentially), at 600+ fps and it felt absolutely silky smooth.

I just think the frame gen tech is in no way a bad thing, but the lack of raw performance improvements from the last gen and price tags are underwhelming.
 
bobert50 said:
Hmmmph! Obviously I wish the 5000 series cards had stronger raw fps improvements from the 4000 series, but I'm actually quite liking the feel of the frame gen thing. I've not tried the official 5000 series frame gen yet, but my step son showed me something similar (but perhaps more input lag) and it felt like it created the illusion pretty well on cyberpunk. It reminded me of absolutely years ago playing glquake online (quake 1 essentially), at 600+ fps and it felt absolutely silky smooth.

I just think the frame gen tech is in no way a bad thing, but the lack of raw performance improvements from the last gen and price tags are underwhelming.
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The visual smoothness frame gen brings is fine, the issue is the added input latency.
 
xaldub said:
The visual smoothness frame gen brings is fine, the issue is the added input latency.
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It's been gone over a few times in the thread already but this is no longer an issue if your base frame rate is high. There is no significant latency gain with the new DLSS4 frame gen:

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The compromise is an increase in artefacts in very fast moving objects. So it's not perfect, but feedback has been positive - I'm yet to hear any reviewer say it's not worth it.
 
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BS Dave said:
RT required also means the cards can do mesh shaders, which should mean more polygons and fps.

Cutting loose the 1000 series is a good thing.
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Absolutely. You have to leave old hardware behind at some point otherwise you never move forward. That's one positive about Apple. They have no problem ditching old hardware support when the time comes. Meanwhile Microsoft make sure Windows can support everything. Pros and cons to each approach, but I think it is good that old crummy GPUs are being ditched.
 
xaldub said:
I'm a realist. You're living in cloud cuckoo land if you think you can grab a 4090 for £600 this year.
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Exactly this.. This is unlike GPU's before.. the 4090 was an odd one at release due to it being such a giant leap from the 3090 and now the 5090 benchmarks are out and it's only roughly a 30% uplift on average.
Generally the new 80 series would perform as well as or better than the previous 90 series, which the 4080 has done over the 3090Ti by about 25%... but from everything we have seen, read and can determine just by looking at cuda cores etc the new 80 card is only going to be about 10% at best than the 4080 Super...

Also both the 40 series and 50 series have Frame gen... the only difference is that one can do 2x and the other can do 4x. then we have the VRAM which the 5080 only has 16GB.. if they had put the same amount as the 4090 then this would have instantly devalued the 4090 more.. even if the 5080 had worse performance than the 4090 but had the same amount of VRAM.

No matter how you look at it the 4090 is the 2nd best card on the market right now and plenty out there still have years of warranty... mine still has about 18 months and i got mine on release, which from reading, most AIB's warranty the card, not the purchaser, so it automatically transfers.

Now would i personally spend £1000+ on a used GPU probably not, but all you have to do is look at the auction websites etc and see that there are plenty that will and yes there might be a bit of a bubble at the moment but it's easily readable that the 4090's value will stay high.

This will remain until they inevtiabley bring out a 5080Ti/Super and the VRAM and performance either match or perform better than the 4090.
 
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