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Nvidia 800 Series ?
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This.
From reading around, there might well be an 800 series card at the end of the year but it is looking most likely to be early 2015.
Soldato
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No. Definitely won't be coming May/June this year.
There's also a rumor that Maxwell GPU that was originally planned for 20nm now need have design modified for 28nm release (due to delay on 20nm), so it might be out before the end of this year on 28nm, but with lesser performance than it could have been on 20nm. But if it was to be launch on 20nm, then it would most likely won't be this year.
There's also a rumor that Maxwell GPU that was originally planned for 20nm now need have design modified for 28nm release (due to delay on 20nm), so it might be out before the end of this year on 28nm, but with lesser performance than it could have been on 20nm. But if it was to be launch on 20nm, then it would most likely won't be this year.
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Well I hope it's end of year at earliest now because I've just spent my GPU money on new air guns.
Seems to be some problems with the manufacturing process.
http://translate.google.com/transla...vidia-maxwell-i-20-nanometer-drojer-till-2015
The 750 is at 28nm, but the "real" maxwells will be 20nm
http://translate.google.com/transla...vidia-maxwell-i-20-nanometer-drojer-till-2015
The 750 is at 28nm, but the "real" maxwells will be 20nm
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There hasn't actually been, as far as I know, any (significant) delay on 20nm. Two things are effecting 20nm releases. Apple having more money than everyone else and then basically buying up all the wafers being the main reason. Also time from when the chip design is basically finished through to tape out and then product launch has increased significantly again due to the complexity increase as we get to smaller nodes 
20nm is actually up and running and in volume production with the ramp said to be ahead of schedule. Apple apparently want enough volume, and TSMC/Samsung alone can't provide it yet that it is making A8's with both companies. The samsung a8 deal appears to be done later, either Apple were desperate for wafers and paid more, Samsung were desperate for business and made a great offer, or TSMC can't meet Apple demands.
best case for graphics is that Samsung made Apple an offer that was cheaper, Apple could then sell off wafer starts to other companies. Worst case is that TSMC's ramp, yields or pricing is significantly worse, none would bode well for good value gpu's. if Apple can just use every wafer available at both fabs then... it's not bad news(process wise) just volume wise. Decent news in that as both fabs increase capacity TSMC will have more capacity for other companies quicker than if only being made at TSMC.
Sounds to most of the industry like 680gtx and lower replacements might be Maxwell 28nm chips, and they could come much earlier than 2015, but 20nm parts, highly unlikely before at least Q1 2015 if not q2/q3. Even then we are seriously unlikely to see true next gen 780gtx style cards, as in 80% faster is unlikely till 16nm maybe a year later
20nm is actually up and running and in volume production with the ramp said to be ahead of schedule. Apple apparently want enough volume, and TSMC/Samsung alone can't provide it yet that it is making A8's with both companies. The samsung a8 deal appears to be done later, either Apple were desperate for wafers and paid more, Samsung were desperate for business and made a great offer, or TSMC can't meet Apple demands.
best case for graphics is that Samsung made Apple an offer that was cheaper, Apple could then sell off wafer starts to other companies. Worst case is that TSMC's ramp, yields or pricing is significantly worse, none would bode well for good value gpu's. if Apple can just use every wafer available at both fabs then... it's not bad news(process wise) just volume wise. Decent news in that as both fabs increase capacity TSMC will have more capacity for other companies quicker than if only being made at TSMC.
Sounds to most of the industry like 680gtx and lower replacements might be Maxwell 28nm chips, and they could come much earlier than 2015, but 20nm parts, highly unlikely before at least Q1 2015 if not q2/q3. Even then we are seriously unlikely to see true next gen 780gtx style cards, as in 80% faster is unlikely till 16nm maybe a year later
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There hasn't actually been, as far as I know, any (significant) delay on 20nm. Two things are effecting 20nm releases. Apple having more money than everyone else and then basically buying up all the wafers being the main reason. Also time from when the chip design is basically finished through to tape out and then product launch has increased significantly again due to the complexity increase as we get to smaller nodes
20nm is actually up and running and in volume production with the ramp said to be ahead of schedule. Apple apparently want enough volume, and TSMC/Samsung alone can't provide it yet that it is making A8's with both companies. The samsung a8 deal appears to be done later, either Apple were desperate for wafers and paid more, Samsung were desperate for business and made a great offer, or TSMC can't meet Apple demands.
best case for graphics is that Samsung made Apple an offer that was cheaper, Apple could then sell off wafer starts to other companies. Worst case is that TSMC's ramp, yields or pricing is significantly worse, none would bode well for good value gpu's. if Apple can just use every wafer available at both fabs then... it's not bad news(process wise) just volume wise. Decent news in that as both fabs increase capacity TSMC will have more capacity for other companies quicker than if only being made at TSMC.
Sounds to most of the industry like 680gtx and lower replacements might be Maxwell 28nm chips, and they could come much earlier than 2015, but 20nm parts, highly unlikely before at least Q1 2015 if not q2/q3. Even then we are seriously unlikely to see true next gen 780gtx style cards, as in 80% faster is unlikely till 16nm maybe a year later
So any personal recommendations? Buy a current gen and sit tight for a couple of years?
Yep. That'd be my recommendation. Buy a good current gen and wait it out till the late 2015 or 2016 models.