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Nvidia and Epic show the UE4 powered "Rivalry" demo running on Tegra K1

Pottsey said:
The G6230 Rogue GPU is around 1 year old and a match for Tegra K1.
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2014/06/onda-v989-tablet-smashes-48000-antutu-mark/

The G6230 a single core GPU. By the time the Tegra K1 is out the dual core Rogue chips will be around. Some of the year old G6230 specs are x3 higher then Tegra K1. Surly that means the dual core chip will have come specs x6 higher.
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I see your point but i have yet to see a good set of benchmarks for any chip running with the new PowerVR chips. And these AIO synthetic benchmarks like quadrant and antutu are not a good basis for a comparison of pure GFX power, they take IO/RAM/CPU speeds into account with their calculations.
 
Apache14 said:
I see your point but i have yet to see a good set of benchmarks for any chip running with the new PowerVR chips. And these AIO synthetic benchmarks like quadrant and antutu are not a good basis for a comparison of pure GFX power, they take IO/RAM/CPU speeds into account with their calculations.
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To be fair I do agree Antutu and the like are not good benchmarks. How about this then. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRoGwuSDh3E Fully interactive, think it was over 500 AI’s running, 1000’s of objects. Not a flat simple corridor or scripted demo like TK1 and not draining 11 watt of power. For me that's a GPU that's been out almost 1 year that's far more impressive then Tegra K1.

Tegra K1 is a next gen chip that is only just catching up to this gen. At least that's how I see it.

EDIT: updated link.
 
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That youtube link took me to an advertisement trying to sell me " a chance to rent a duplex fully furnished in New Cairo with garden a7 swimming pool. "
 
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AlamoX said:
yea but basicly no one buys the shield, not the 1st and probably not the 2nd, any console like hardware need exclusives, otherwise if it shows that there is a market, you get couple dozen competitors in the following months, driving your margins down and market share, especialy if some of the competition already highly efficient hardware, will either push you to spend more on R&D while losing margins and market share...
i dont know this whole shield thing i dont see it.
what do i know you ask me :d , they know better, just that to me tegra doesnt seem evolving fast enough to be relevant against what's already out there.
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If 'basically' no-one bought the 1, then why did they make the 2 ?
 
FYI im not defending the new TK1 in any way (Iv maintained multiple Tegra2/3 devices for CyanogenMod) and i know that they are by far the some of the most painful devices when looking at device updates / longevity. This is due to how the Tegra drivers on android ate constructed.

That being said TK1 is an interesting chip for its GPU alone
 
Apache14 said:
FYI im not defending the new TK1 in any way (Iv maintained multiple Tegra2/3 devices for CyanogenMod) and i know that they are by far the some of the most painful devices when looking at device updates / longevity. This is due to how the Tegra drivers on android ate constructed.

That being said TK1 is an interesting chip for its GPU alone
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I don’t see what’s so interesting about it. From a GPU point of view it does nothing really new all its doing are the thing Tegra should have done years ago that everyone else did years ago. What’s interesting?

A for the youtube link I have no idea what happens. Sorry about that. This is what it should have been and shows what the GPU from last year can do http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRoGwuSDh3E
 
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Pottsey said:
Tegra should have done years ago that everyone else did years ago
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Tegra is ahead of snapdragon and exynos on a GPU comparison, and the addition of CUDA to an embedded platform means more power for vision processing. PowerVR may be ahead on raw GFX performance (im still not 100% convinced of it tho) but still everyone != Just PowerVR.

Also comparing iOS to Android devices (especially when looking at metal API) is as pointless as comparing a Linux OpenGL game to a Windows Mantle game ;). Metal is designed to take advantage of a VERY specific set of hardware, this results in massive IQ and FPS boots on that platform.
 
Apache14 said:
Tegra is ahead of snapdragon and exynos on a GPU comparison, and the addition of CUDA to an embedded platform means more power for vision processing. PowerVR may be ahead on raw GFX performance (im still not 100% convinced of it tho) but still everyone != Just PowerVR.

Also comparing iOS to Android devices (especially when looking at metal API) is as pointless as comparing a Linux OpenGL game to a Windows Mantle game ;). Metal is designed to take advantage of a VERY specific set of hardware, this results in massive IQ and FPS boots on that platform.
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Tegra is only ahead of snapdragon and exynos on a GPU comparison because Tegra is cheating so badly. Do a comparison of a snapdragon and exynos running fast and drawing up to 11watt of power and watch them beat Tegra.

K1 at realistic speeds with a realistic watt usage looks to be massively slow compared to the next gen GPU’s. In a normal situation K1 should be drawing under 4 watt making it under half those benchmarks speeds which frankly is very poor performance. It’s only because they cheat so badly they look half decent.

It’s just another repeat of Tegra 1 to 4 which is why Tegra K1 will sell so badly.
 
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