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Nvidia cheating again, this time Crysis

SebC said:
"again" ?
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Not sure when you got into PC hardware, but this sort of thing has been going on for a while...

The one I can accurately remember was Nvidia indulging in some less-than-honest benchmark tweaking to boost the performance of their Geforce 5 series cards.

Then again with their 'bri-linear' filtering (i.e. not applying tri-linear anisotropic filtering properly)...

ATi aren't exactly squeaky clean, however...


Mav, I'm curious - a genuine optimisation would help the whole game run faster, not a select, pre-defined fly-by, wouldn't it?

Personally, I'm not fussed as both parties are dirty when it comes down to the black art of benchmarking. But then I don't game (anymore), so... ;)
 
No wonder they've been slinging drivers out like no tomorrow for Crysis, they must find another way of cheating so bang it out in another set, as we got the 169.04's about a day after the 02's. :D
 
mrthingyx said:
Mav, I'm curious - a genuine optimisation would help the whole game run faster, not a select, pre-defined fly-by, wouldn't it?

Personally, I'm not fussed as both parties are dirty when it comes down to the black art of benchmarking. But then I don't game (anymore), so... ;)
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depends on what there is to optimise, normally they code using modules, e.g shadows, water, clouds, smoke, reflections, etc, they could have picked one in which they saw they can make the improvements in with little effort.

i used to believe that general driver optimisation would make the whole game run quicker, but going back last year i saw some interesting results with different drivers and settings in different games, e.g:

in a game like doom3 i saw old driver version performance was low with shadows on, so i turned shadows off. new driver version gave same fps as old driver version with shadows off, but when shadows were put on the new driver showed massive speed boost.

im guessing there is a lot to fiddle with in the drivers when it comes to custom game settings.

but the main optimisations need to made to the game code for more efficiency.
 
So how come ours are fine then? Theres no weird stretched reflections on mine or Dingleberry88's. I'm using the 169.04's and I guess he is as well so I'm confused :confused:
 
Nvidia have always been doing, i thought it was always a ploy in case ATI ever overtook them or they were losing sales marginally then they would release new drivers to increase performance, suffice to say ATI probably do the same but just loose in the long run :D
 
I just ran the bench (169.02) and there's no sign of the reflections "stretching" as shown on the elite website :confused:
I watched carefully on each loop, and the mountains are definitely reflected properly, like a vertical mirror image. The skewing is very obvious in the elite screenshots so there's no way I'd miss that, if it was happening for me.

Has anyone reproduced the problem?

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Ah, I see other GTX owners don't have it either, weird...
 
I think this is only for the GT's as I haven't noticed any difference in performance or image with changing the drivers where as a lot of GT folk have.
 
Still don't get the fuss, so there is optimisations for Crysis in drivers we know were released for Crysis... where is the shock? This isn't cheating :/
 
It is cheating, they are rendering the game incorrectly to boost performance, thats got nothing to do with driver optimisation, its cheating. :p

As has been said though, its nothing new as they have been caught cheating before, as have ATi.

Ive just tried it on my GT, and its rendering fine for me also, so bugger knows, Rippling says he gets it though.

I don't get why they need to cheat though, as even without the cheats the GT is still whooping the 2900 XT, so leave em out, unless they want it to look better than it is.

I rekon were gona get another set of drivers now with the cheats removed seen as they got rumbled yet again, any day now. :D:D
 
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i was thinking of trying crysis, but with an x1950pro, I think i'll pass untill I have something more capable of running it :p
 
LoadsaMoney said:
It is cheating, they are rendering the game incorrectly to boost performance, thats got nothing to do with driver optimisation, its cheating. :p

As has been said though, its nothing new as they have been caught cheating before, as have ATi.

Ive just tried it on my GT, and its rendering fine for me also, so bugger knows, Rippling says he gets it though.

I don't get why they need to cheat though, as even without the cheats the GT is still whooping the 2900 XT, so leave em out, unless they want it to look better than it is.

I rekon were gona get another set of drivers now with the cheats removed seen as they got rumbled yet again, any day now. :D:D
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Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. Personally I think it is way to early to be jumping on any band wagons. The fact you say yourself that you do not see it. Maybe there is a bug in the drivers and a certain revision of the GT that they are trying to fix? Hence throwing out beta driver after beta driver.
 
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