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nVidia GameWorks in Evolve - Sweclockers bench

They are supposedly adding gameworks features in the near future.

Another coup, why not release a game, let everyone play it, then add gameworks features.... that way the game won't stutter for the reviews :p
 
I played this on the Beta and didn't really like it but had a couple of games and in fairness, it grew on me. Could be worth a punt and ran nice and smooth. If you enjoy some tactical shooting as a group, for sure get this.
 
Don't judge the game on the previously available beta, there is so much more in the full version. My son has been raving about it and playing nonstop since it launched.
Of course you are entitled to your opinion on the game, but just as myself I don't think much of counter strike, it doesn't make it a rubbish game.

What makes you think I based it on beta? Played the full game and while I agree with you what is rubbish to me might not be to you.
 
Im blaming All parties involved.
UBIsoft, NV and GameWorks because the black box nature does not help matters in any way.

UBIsoft and NV are peas in a pod they really do deserve each others and while AMD has not been all the ball with driver release cycle, NV has not been on the ball with quality.

No no no! Stop looking to blame people, other than UBIsoft. Clearly GameWorks is good when it is done properly (as seen in the gorgeous Batman Arkham Origins). nVidia have developed the libraries for developers to add and this free's up time for them to work on other things.

All this whinging and blaming nVidia is rather strident, as they are trying to push gaming forward and all the cry babies want to do is blame them instead of blaming UBISoft. With the right developer, GameWorks is a winner and it will get better.

The sole blame for the poor performance of GameWorks in UBIsoft games is UBIsoft. nVidia also get the same mess that AMD get and your claims of Black Box are laughable :D
 
I stand by my comment because there was a big matter of opinion over Batman Arkham Origins which started the whole performance fiasco in the first place and it was only because of the superior bandwidth of the 290 when AA was applied that leveled the playing field, because the rest of the AMD range was getting pounded by much lower tier NV cards.
So i will agree to disagree about Batman Arkham Origins did it properly and was gorgeous.
 
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I stand by my comment because there was a big matter of opinion over Batman Arkham Origins which started the whole performance fiasco in the first place and it was only because of the superior bandwidth of the 290 when AA was applied that leveled the playing field, because the rest of the AMD range was getting pounded by much lower tier NV cards.
So i will agree to disagree about Batman Arkham Origins did it properly and was gorgeous.

Agree to disagree as much as you like. Both nVidia and AMD's PR were at each other over the supposed "nVidia cripples performance on AMD hardware" and AMD never came back for more after nVidia put them right, so take from that as you will. You believe what you want to believe, as will I but I applaud nVidia for pushing forward on technologies. More of it please and less stagnation is great for "All" PC Gamers.

I loved what AMD did with TressFX, so more of that please.
 
Agree to disagree as much as you like. Both nVidia and AMD's PR were at each other over the supposed "nVidia cripples performance on AMD hardware" and AMD never came back for more after nVidia put them right, so take from that as you will. You believe what you want to believe, as will I but I applaud nVidia for pushing forward on technologies. More of it please and less stagnation is great for "All" PC Gamers.

I loved what AMD did with TressFX, so more of that please.

I dont care what AMD said or NV said in the matter, i care about the reviews and user findings.

Both AMD and NV have there day and they will get pounded each time they do it, AMD got pounded on even though it was the fault of square enix not giving NV the updated code in time for launch, maybe AMD had some part to play in it but at the end of the day AMD did get jumped on regardless and just because both parties have done some shady things in the past ( which is down to opinion to how numerous and how severe), that can not be used as a reason for not jumping on them when they currently do so.


When the GW features are implemented and the AMD cards dont take a hit when at least the features are disabled than i will conclude that GW is not gimping AMD performance in this title.
 
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Its crazy to me how Keplar cards are performing so badly compared to their direct GCN counterparts now in new games.
 
Its crazy to me how Keplar cards are performing so badly compared to their direct GCN counterparts now in new games.

Some think that Nvidia are deliberately gimping Kepler cards with the latest drivers so that Maxwell looks better, and people upgrade..

I don't have an opinion on this, just saying.
 
The game runs good on AMD because it uses Cryengine (and crytek-amd relations are good), not because gameworks is so good.
The problem with gameworks is, that it helps a developer implement some functions in a "package", they are just using them as you use a lego brick. So you can say, it encourages developers, to just slap things together, and profit, and don't put any effort in it.
 
Some think that Nvidia are deliberately gimping Kepler cards with the latest drivers so that Maxwell looks better, and people upgrade..

I don't have an opinion on this, just saying.

Maybe they think that because 780Ti is beaten by 290X in most of the games in the last few months since maxwell is out while it was a bit ahead before.
 
I do not think they would be gimping performance intentionally, that is a bit to much of a conspiracy theory for me. What I would think is maybe happening is that they are not working on driver optimizations for the 7 series as much no more as they are on the 9 series.

Is their a similar pattern with 2 series and the 7 series for AMD?. To be honest I have not checked benchmarks for either sides older generations recently
 
I do not think they would be gimping performance intentionally, that is a bit to much of a conspiracy theory for me. What I would think is maybe happening is that they are not working on driver optimizations for the 7 series as much no more as they are on the 9 series.

Is their a similar pattern with 2 series and the 7 series for AMD?. To be honest I have not checked benchmarks for either sides older generations recently

No from what I have seen the 7970 is actually catching up with the gtx780. It would need more looking into but from the small amounts I have seen Kepler performance seems to be going backwards. Check out the gtx780 compared to the r9 290. It was only months back people were recommending the gtx780 over the 290 and some still do.

http://www.techpowerup.com/mobile/reviews/MSI/GTX_970_Gaming/27.html

For comparison check this out.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Sapphire/R9_290_Vapor-X/25.html

I think they did up date there gaming sweet to reflect newer games which may have changed things a bit.
 
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The game runs good on AMD because it uses Cryengine (and crytek-amd relations are good), not because gameworks is so good.
The problem with gameworks is, that it helps a developer implement some functions in a "package", they are just using them as you use a lego brick. So you can say, it encourages developers, to just slap things together, and profit, and don't put any effort in it.

Had that been Nvidia, and NVidia were getting good results on any said game as they were pals with a developer there would be an outcry. Cool though, its AMD its allowed.
 
Some think that Nvidia are deliberately gimping Kepler cards with the latest drivers so that Maxwell looks better, and people upgrade..

I don't have an opinion on this, just saying.

I read someone saying that on the NVidia forums.

Would be good to see some benchmarks with the same game on Kepler with drivers from older to newer. We should see a downward curve.
 
No from what I have seen the 7970 is actually catching up with the gtx780. It would need more looking into but from the small amounts I have seen Kepler performance seems to be going backwards. Check out the gtx780 compared to the r9 290. It was only months back people were recommending the gtx780 over the 290 and some still do.

http://www.techpowerup.com/mobile/reviews/MSI/GTX_970_Gaming/27.html

For comparison check this out.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Sapphire/R9_290_Vapor-X/25.html

I think they did up date there gaming sweet to reflect newer games which may have changed things a bit.

Thanks, I shall have a look around when I get chance, would be interesting to see for both manufacturers.

Maybe worth starting a thread for people with 7950/70 and 780/ti's who have older benchmark results who are able to re-run again with newer driver revisions to see if performance is dropping to the latest generation.
 
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