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Nvidia GT200 released in July ?

Shocky-FM said:
Nope, it was released 08/11/06, 16 months and 23 days ago.
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I think he means by the time this new card comes out it'll have been 19 months.

That being said though, what has been the usual time for new cards to come out in the past? New card every year with refresh after 6 months, or was it longer? Seems like we've been waiting ages, but I can't remember if this is an unusually long wait or not.
 
Trixxy said:
That being said though, what has been the usual time for new cards to come out in the past? New card every year with refresh after 6 months, or was it longer? Seems like we've been waiting ages, but I can't remember if this is an unusually long wait or not.
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It varies, but it was usually refresh after 6 months then something new after a year or so but that was when competition was good, what we have now is essentially a one horse race in the high end. :(
 
it still unknown and maybe Nvidia change the date to delay to release new Geforce 9900 - it depend when testing before it complete to ship out, it too early to say when it come out but think it may not in July - maybe move to later date. Find out in the summer or later but it may too costly...

ATi release new R800 next year as Nvidia will do the same with new 55nm die core from 2009
 
http://www.vr-zone.com/articles/NVIDIA_GT200_:_GeForce_9900_GTX_&_9900_GT_In_Q3/5684.html
No it is not some April Fool jokes. VR-Zone has learned that there will be two high end parts from Nvidia to replace the current GeForce 9800 GX2 and 9800 GTX in Q3. These two parts are GeForce 9900 GTX and GeForce 9900 GT based on the new GT200 architecture. GeForce 9800 GX2 and GTX will have a short lifespan since they will be replaced in a couple of months time. Nvidia has positioned GeForce 9900 GTX to replace 9800 GX2 and this gave a clue that a single GT200 card will actually outperform a dual G92 card. Likewise for GeForce 9900 GT, outperforming and replacing 9800 GTX. CJ revealed to us that Nvidia will have a hard time fitting GT200 onto the PCB since the GPU is gonna be large and very power hungry so we can probably assume it is still 65nm based. The PCB for GT200 will be P651.
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If the GT200 out performs the gx2 and if it could also handle high AA then its going to be a nice card. Whether it will run Crysis maxed out though...
 
So now, there is absolutely no reason at all to buy a 9800GTX. Looks like the 9900GTX will be my next card. :)
 
AGAIN!?!?!? ****!!!

what is the point of R&Ding a card, setting up the fabs, and everything, and then marketing it, and EOLing it in 3-6 months!?!!

first the 256mb 8800GTS, then the crockpot 8800GS, now this. nvidia have gone mad, i think

let's compare the market for a bit, shall we?
nvidia - 9600GT, 256 AND 512mb 8800GT, 512 8800GTS, (being repriced and hiked sometime soon) 9800GX2, 9800GTX, and now these 9900 cards? come on. let's be real here. this is over the top.

whereas ATi has 4 cards in the higher end of the segment - 256 and 512mb 3850, 3870, and 3870X2, R700, and superior drivers.

umm, lol. we can beat your card but we don't know which way is best, so we'll do it in three different ways and figure that out with your help? i doubt i'll ever buy an nvidia card at this rate... why not just release one card that is better? we all concede that nvidia has the performance crown, so why not just take all of these excess cards, and put the rest of the money into making a card that actually can run crysis on high settings at high res? and milk the rest of our money? i'd rather still have an 8800GTX as the top card up to now than this 3000 cards on the market rubbish...
 
99xx series might be the new g92b version...

Basically G92 at 55nm.

The high end still exists in the G100/GT200 codename but its release date is unknown.

RV770 is a lot more interesting now as its supposed to be a solid upgrade to RV670 while maintaining the same price brackets
 
but, SURELY it can't be cheap to be building card A, then Card B, then Card C, then C version 2, and so on and so on and so on... Does nVidia REALLY have anything that can compete with R700, or are they just leaking specs of this GT whatever to make it seem like they aren't scared of ATi?

-e- lol @ Lightnix' post
 
The 9800's seem pointless now if these are coming out, but hopefully they might be better, but i wouldn't be surprised if a few months later something else will come out :/ .
 
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sunlitsix said:
why cant it be cheap?
its practically the same G92 chip being used on all the 9 series
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yes and no, it takes a lot of money to make the first core and tape it out and dropping size isn't literally making the same core shrunk down, worst case scenario is that every single last transistor in the die, hundreds of millions, have to be carefully realligned to work well, best case scenario is still a lot of realligning work, a LOT. It takes time, expertise to do so. But to be fair, they've had the 8800 core, that was it, ultra was a higher clock, the gts's were simply either failed 8800 cores, or shaders cut as they needed more gts's. Its only one core. With the new cards, they might have released lots of numbers, but they are still only making one new core.

THe 9600gt is a tough call, unless the 65nm is really crappy yields which is perfectly possible, dropping 50% of shaders seems insane, so either they make a cut down design or they are selling a lot of large cores for little money.

Ati largely forced them to compete on price, how anyone can have a go at them for pushing high end kit to basically budget prices i have no clue. THis was a very specific plan, they announced the intention to do so months before the 2900 was released and was AMD wide, black editions cpu's, cheap quad cores, cheap great overclocking dual cores. They specifically mentioned they wanted to bring prices down rather than sell 1million high end £300 cards they want to sell 20million £150 high end cards. Its commendable, and massively needed seeing as Nvidia were raising the high end by £50 a generation.

The 9800 series was probably never going to be, nor the new 8800gts's/gt's, these were early parts that were needed to push costs down to compete.

Seems to me the 9xxx range is now what it should be, with but backwards, mid end released first. there is a chance they were always going to do 65nm next gen, but to compete bought out mid/low end first as 65nm is troublesome and they needed longer to get the high end parts out.

but i still can't see the 9900's being anything special, my guess 512mbit bus, 1gig mem, higher clocks, maybe a few extra shaders.

Still won't use nvidia, drivers + stability + 64bit.lol.

THe only real complaint i see against ATI drivers, boohoo, my agp card doesn't work great with new drivers. If you've got some ridiculously old agp card, and system, stick with old drivers. How many years should i suffer worse drivers because they spend stupidly long working in 5 year old card support when its not needed. a few so called enthusiasts upgrade drivers for the SAKE OF UPGRADING DRIVERS, and get all pissy when they don't work.
 
Hmm

These need to be a good deal faster than current cards to be a worthy upgrade, 8800's were best now 9800's are pointless so how will these newer cards do?

i hope they are a good 100% faster otherwise no point
 
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