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Nvidia GTX Titan II Flagship with GM200 Core Is Launching Sooner Than Expected – Ready Within 2 Mont

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Remember that piece we did on Nvidia’s Research Paper? the one that claimed that the GM200 flagship core would be launching in this year? Well turns out there was something to it after all. I was doing my habitual cursory inspection of the shipping data at Zauba.com and I spotted the entry we have been waiting for. The Customer Sample of the GM200 core. The Customer Sample means that most of the internal testing of the GM200 is now complete and they are now refining the end product.
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Nvidia GM200 ‘Maxwell Flagship’ Core Internal Testing Finished – GTX Titan II Coming Soon

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Now I am not sure whether I have told you guys this before but Nvidia is hosting a very big reveal event on 10 – 12 September next month and this is where the second generation Maxwell will make its debut. Nvidia will be hosting a reveal event and we will probably see the GTX 900 Mobility series unveiled too. However, we just might even see the next iteration of the Titan series at the reveal too, considering the fact that shipping data shows the GPU is now completely ready. Do keep in mind that I do not know what the card will be called, but Titan II seems like a good name as any. Here is the shipping entry from Zauba.com that confirms that the GM200 aka the Titan II GPU are now exiting the internal testing state: GM200 Customer Sample TITAN II
Before the first ‘CS’ entry which appeared on 12th August 2014, there had only been entries using the nomenclature ‘INT’ which means the core is meant for Internal Testing. Because green follows the same pattern we knew that once the INT chips were spotted the CS chips wouldn’t be that far behind and it looks like our waiting has paid off because the chips with the name GM200-CS0-A1 and GM200-CS1-A1 have been spotted, indicating that the GPU is now more or less ready. This core will have double the performance per watt of the GK110 core (as can be seen from the research paper) and we should see an amazing leap in gaming performance from 204 to 200. So the jump from Titan to the Titan II is shaping out to be pretty cool.
The GTX Titan II (or whatever it is called) should give you a minimum of 50% performance increase in Gaming in real life settings, seeing we are looking at a 100% boost in on-paper performance. Considering the fact that the research paper by Nvidia also claimed that the Titan II would be out before the end of 2014 means that the time line for this GPU is now more or less confirmed. I believe we are looking at a 2 Month launch window considering the history of the GM204 core. That would put the the launch of the GM200 GPU somewhere around November, unless Nvidia manages to pull one on us and launch alongside GM204.


Read more: http://wccftech.com/nvidia-gm200-core-titan-ii-soon/#ixzz3AfcmjyCV
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Now I am interested :D
 
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Remember the first GM200s will be used as compute cards. Nvidia will get huge orders from governments and research institutes, so I'd expect them to fill those orders first. Even if they do announce/release GM200 based cards soon, the GPU market will have to wait until the big compute orders are completed.

It's GM204s for us in the meantime.
 
The GTX Titan II (or whatever it is called) should give you a minimum of 50% performance increase in Gaming in real life settings, seeing we are looking at a 100% boost in on-paper performance.
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If this is true sign me up for 2, unfortunately even at £800 a pop I'd be in for them, especially from seeing the longevity of the current Titans, could easily be a 2-3 year investment.
 
A doubling in performance per watt(this will mean DP performance) is a "100% on paper performance increase".... no, it's not. That someone would say that should indicate just how stupid the person saying it is.

If you take a Titan as is, which has DP performance 1/3rd that of SP performance, shave 50W off it, make the architecture 1/2 SP performance and you'd have your double performance per watt.

This is really easily achievable without even increasing SP performance, with the same shader count and rough performance. Doubling DP performance per watt has NOTHING to do with gaming performance and is not remotely indicative of an "on paper 100% increase in performance". Presuming that Titan 2 has double the shaders, bandwidth and performance to get double the DP per watt is literally retarded.

I forget the claims Nvidia made about 580gtx, but it used less power had higher clocks and had a few more bits enabled(shaders, cache) that made it both faster and lower power simple going from say 1TF of DP performance at 250W or 4GFlops/w to 1.2TF at 225W or 5.3GFlops/w is a 33% increase, that is basically what you got from 480-580gtx. Improved process lets you drop power and increase clocks, then you have a new process. AMD is on 1/2DP performance architecture and has been since the 7970. In raw compute AMD cards are owning Nvidia cards at the moment. I would absolutely expect a 1/2 DP card from Nvidia for Maxwell as they have to compete. so if you can gain 33% simple from the same architecture, by moving from 1/3 to a 1/2 architecture you can easily achieve 100% increase in DP/w performance with roughly the same base SP performance/game performance.


Trying to work out why this is "sooner than expected" as well?

We heard earlier in the year that Gm204 would tape out in the next couple of weeks(or may already have) in about April and GM200 was expected to tape out in June/July, so 2-3 months later. GM204 is expected in September maybe and GM200 is likely be 2-3 months behind. This is expected, not sooner than expected. Much like the supposed 880gtx, expect products fairly similar to the previous gen parts, with some efficiency improvements and likely a bit of die size saving and real products with real generational gap in performance next year at 20nm.
 
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