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...understand retail products aren't going to be available until early next year - does anyone (i.e. someone well placed in the industry) have and firm ideas on when they might be available? Also, I'm thinking a "GTX680" will initially retail for somewhere around the 580 price point - would this be an accurate summation?

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It's to far out to make any sort of assumptions on what the new Kepler GPU's will bring. All we know is that the chips are going to be produced by TSMC and Nvidia are investing $2 billion into it's development. The price will be dictated by what's already available on the market but expect the price to be high as Nvidia will want a return on $2 billion R&D costs.

To be honest I find the whole thing very boring and predicable.
 
They wont even start to roll off the production line until late jan early feb 2012 so unless u have deep pockets you wont even see the 580 replacement under £450 until may or june i would guess.

:mad:

With 512bit ring bus i would guess 2GB as standard so if you want a 4GB version its going to be near christmas 2012.I cant wait that long!!
 
According to the last rumours I saw somewhere else (which claimed to be leaked from inside NVIDIA and TSMC), the 28nm pipe cleaner models (i.e. the low end) might not be seen this year - probably early next year. GK107 seems to be caught by some problems. The 28nm flagships (i.e. the top end) may not be seen until April 2012.

The fact that EVGA is still pushing products like the GTX580 Classified 3GB also indicates that the GF110 might still have a life time of about 6 months, if not too long.

Anyway, rumours are just rumours. Use your own judgements.

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Nvidia has a LOT of room for manouvre in upgrading their 384bit bus so 512bit is incredibly unlikely. Look at gddr5 speeds between AMD and Nvidia, they've got another 30-40% speed to find on the same chips, with most people saying its the controller limiting them, so redesign the controller and have chips working at full speed in the same die space/pin out and mobo trace count, or move to a much wider bus, that will suck more power, need more memory chips, more traces, likely more layers in the pcb, more die space, etc, etc.



680gtx, seemingly not till mid 2012(not quite clear on if thats say a month either side of the midpoint of the year, or after mid 2012, or just around about then( may-August sometime). This is likely as most people seem to now agree the 680gtx die hasn't even taped out yet(which is always realistically absolute bare minimum 4 months to launch from tape out). Since that rumour appeared, a couple websites have thrown around the theory that AMD also won't launch till mid July, however its been confirmed that basically most of the HD7000 range taped out, quite a while ago, and is waiting on manufacturing more than anything else.

Its looking more like late 2011, early 2012 for 7870, maybe 7970 parts, a lot later than that for the 680gtx.

Harmony, pushing out new models doesn't really indicate something new isn't coming. You often get stock release, then a month or two later the 3rd party versions, then quite often a month or two before new parts are due you get an influx of fancy new versions with more mem, higher overclocks and better prices, these are more often than not to encourage clearing out stock before new parts come, not always though.

End of the day, even 3 months after the 6970/680gtx launch there will still be cards to sell and money to be made, so bringing out new better models to get sales over the other guys, is always going to happen.
 
It's to far out to make any sort of assumptions on what the new Kepler GPU's will bring. All we know is that the chips are going to be produced by TSMC and Nvidia are investing $2 billion into it's development. The price will be dictated by what's already available on the market but expect the price to be high as Nvidia will want a return on $2 billion R&D costs.

To be honest I find the whole thing very boring and predicable.

funny that.
 
Harmony, pushing out new models doesn't really indicate something new isn't coming. You often get stock release, then a month or two later the 3rd party versions, then quite often a month or two before new parts are due you get an influx of fancy new versions with more mem, higher overclocks and better prices, these are more often than not to encourage clearing out stock before new parts come, not always though.

End of the day, even 3 months after the 6970/680gtx launch there will still be cards to sell and money to be made, so bringing out new better models to get sales over the other guys, is always going to happen.

But you did notice that the EVGA Classified reached 1.6GHz under LN2? That kind of design was not supposed to cut cost, but instead I bet the investment into designing such a card cannot be cheap - just look at that huge centrifuge fan for OTES design :S If GK1XX flagship is due soon, and if I were EVGA, I probably might invest more funds into designing non-reference cards for GK1XX, not GF110.
 
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