Nvidia Project Logan
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Ah right, sorry that's not what I've read, I've been told they are sticking with OpenGL 3.x as per the current lines.
I stand corrected in that regard then
Still, I'm happy I'll finally be able to make use of a GPU for CUDA based offloading, that's the thing which makes the most difference for me, a few more generations so they can ramp performance up, the Tegra chips will be genuinely useful to cluster together for low power HPC resources.
I stand corrected in that regard then
Still, I'm happy I'll finally be able to make use of a GPU for CUDA based offloading, that's the thing which makes the most difference for me, a few more generations so they can ramp performance up, the Tegra chips will be genuinely useful to cluster together for low power HPC resources.
Why is it nobody seems to know anything about the Shield? It's an android based device that used a Tegra chip and does not need a PC to be used. It works fine on it's own and is basically a touch screen display attached to a controller so you can play any android developed games on it. You can stream games from your PC to your shield over Wi-Fi. This is great and it's a well known fact that hand held devices are selling in the masses atm.
It's also NVidia only as the GPU in your PC GTX 6xx+ actually has hardware in it that makes it possible.
And so what if they make it NVidia only? They do the R&D they reap the rewards?
It's also NVidia only as the GPU in your PC GTX 6xx+ actually has hardware in it that makes it possible.
And so what if they make it NVidia only? They do the R&D they reap the rewards?
It cannot run most Android games or apps as it cannot run anything in portrait mode which is what most apps are made for. It has a rubbish screen worse than your average phone. It runs a Tegra GPU which is rubbish and can only stream games when the PC is not being used in which case you can just use the PC instead. It’s expensive and you can do the same thing with your smartphone and a controller for x10 less money.
Why buy a shield when for £10 you can by an app and controller that does the same thing with your smartphone?
"It's also NVidia only as the GPU in your PC GTX 6xx+ actually has hardware in it that makes it possible. "
That is not true and NVidia only did is so you have to spend money on their products. Most smart mobiles can stream from a PC without needing a NVidia GPU.
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Well Logen which isn’t due for years and is already outclassed by todays chips. Below is the PowerVR G6200 the lowest spec series 6 chip.
http://withimagination.imgtec.com/i...ervr-series6-gpus-to-a-mobile-device-near-you
http://withimagination.imgtec.com/i...ervr-series6-gpus-to-a-mobile-device-near-you
Logan's peak theoretical performance x5 the Ipad performance in years to come. PowerVR Rogue lowest spec chip peak theoretical performance x10 the performance this year with the highest spec chips over x20 peak theoretical performance.
http://withimagination.imgtec.com/i...ervr-series6-gpus-to-a-mobile-device-near-you
http://withimagination.imgtec.com/i...ervr-series6-gpus-to-a-mobile-device-near-you
Logan's peak theoretical performance x5 the Ipad performance in years to come. PowerVR Rogue lowest spec chip peak theoretical performance x10 the performance this year with the highest spec chips over x20 peak theoretical performance.
Looking good, it's a shame they couldn't execute Keplar for Tegra 4/Shield.
Have they removed the FP64 CUDA cores for mobile?
The first batch of series 6 GPUs are DX10_1 only.
From early benchmarks a 28nm G6200 sits between a T604 and Adreno 320 and a bit slower than Tegra 4.
We don't know the all important power consumption of that performance level though.
Let's see what the G6400 can do, it should be competing with Adreno 330 and Mali-T628 MP6.
Hopefully nVidia can get a design win with Keplar to compete against those guys asap.
Have they removed the FP64 CUDA cores for mobile?
The first batch of series 6 GPUs are DX10_1 only.
From early benchmarks a 28nm G6200 sits between a T604 and Adreno 320 and a bit slower than Tegra 4.
We don't know the all important power consumption of that performance level though.
Let's see what the G6400 can do, it should be competing with Adreno 330 and Mali-T628 MP6.
Hopefully nVidia can get a design win with Keplar to compete against those guys asap.
That’s why I said up to DX11. The lowest spec is DX10.1 with the highest spec at DX11.1. Once the higher end chips arrive we should see Logan level features and much better then Logan performance year(s) before Logen.
It seems like NVidia will be under delivering again.
It seems like NVidia will be under delivering again.
Doubt we'll see DX11 class powerVR GPU before Logan. Not that it matters, win RT isn't going anywhere fast and Intel are using their own gen 7 GPUs for baytrail, will they'll have a flagship powervr for the phone version? No chance! 
The Kepler demo was very impressive, are there any competitor demos showing the the same features? OpenGL ES 3 is the highest I've seen. On a side note when Android will receive official openGL 4.3 support? Will it make it for Key lime pie?
The Kepler demo was very impressive, are there any competitor demos showing the the same features? OpenGL ES 3 is the highest I've seen. On a side note when Android will receive official openGL 4.3 support? Will it make it for Key lime pie?
Sorry I took so long to respond on holiday. Not 100% the same but http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URpbmzptvGc shows PowerVR doing some of the same features as Logen like face morphing only today not in years to come. It’s also running on a full size HD TV not a tiny little screen like Logen, so the resolution is most likely much higher.
The logen demo has better light scattering but I put that more down to what the demo is trying to show and how it’s coded then limits of the hardware.
As for Intel we will see. They seem to be using more PowerVR tech not less.
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Kainy? Last time I tried it, it was crap.
I'd get a shield, but I don't want an Nvidia GPU, they've just removed a potential customer.
Nvidia being Nvidia.
I have never used or seen Kainy. Most people in my circles use Splashtop. Then add GameKlip for a Ps3 controller or use an Xbox controller if you prefer.
Either way it’s about £5 to £10 if you already have a smartphone to do everything shield does.
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Now I feel like I wasted money on Kainy, that was meant to be geared towards streaming for games, but it was really poor, I'll try Splashtop.
EDIT : The video's still make it look a bit laggy.
Do you need to pay for splashtop? I see a Splash top 2 that is free. Which is also on my Surface RT. I can see the paid for version too.
EDIT : The video's still make it look a bit laggy.
Do you need to pay for splashtop? I see a Splash top 2 that is free. Which is also on my Surface RT. I can see the paid for version too.
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