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NVIDIA RTX 50 SERIES - Technical/General Discussion

Purgatory said:
Happy to see people waking up now to what is happening... less every generation for a lot more money and more fake frames now. We did warn people at the time and here we are. The 50 series is a classic example of how poor things are getting.

Anyways remember 5070 is 4090 performance ... and 3070 is 2080ti performance... shocked Nvidia has not been taken to court yet over such claims..

Hoping now people keep their wallets in their pockets and stop falling for these games now, or next gen will be $3k for 6090 and $1.5K for 6080 with even 35-40% the silicon of the top end. Then the whole cut down chips even at the top end what happened to getting 100% the chip as we use to for the 80 class back then and not this fake 90 class .. 90 class was dual chip cards not single chip cards.. They changed the names and chip sizes and adding tech nobody asked for to make frame counters throw out fake readings etc.. Anyways ... here we are..
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Probably true until there's some real competition, however there's loads of people like myself that have an ancient card and need to upgrade.
 
hobib_ali said:
how can a pre order go live on actual release date of the product?
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If it's anything like the last few launches, the cards will ship that day if you get your order in while stock lasts. I think it's billed as a pre-order as some orders will be taken which can't immediately be fulfilled.

Based on the 3090 and 4090, unless you want one of the really popular models, you've got 30-45 minutes to land an order, though with the website inevitably going to pot, you may well need all that time to get through the checkout.
 
My thoughts on the 5090 depends on how much raster performance we get. 35% average across many games or better would be good, less would be disappointing (more would be awesome).

But otherwise not much to complain about, better ray tracing, better DLSS upscaling, better frame gen.

I never use frame gen, but don't begrudge others that do.
 
Rogueywon said:
If it's anything like the last few launches, the cards will ship that day if you get your order in while stock lasts. I think it's billed as a pre-order as some orders will be taken which can't immediately be fulfilled.

Based on the 3090 and 4090, unless you want one of the really popular models, you've got 30-45 minutes to land an order, though with the website inevitably going to pot, you may well need all that time to get through the checkout.
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well the 30 series was nutz, 1500+ waiting list, months on end, it was horrible for ppl, 40 series was much easier, I had like a good few hours to decide which model I wanted, placed my order and was processed, but by 5pm all the 4090s were sold, all of em, but I think there were scalped prices on used market, I think 50 series will be easier to get, as its more expensive and with the cost of living issues people wont splash out as much, i think it will only be enthusiast gamers who have spare cash sitting in their bank, and small businesses that use gamer cards instead of non consumer Quadro cards
 
hobib_ali said:
how can a pre order go live on actual release date of the product?
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I imagine it will be a case of first come first served with the limited number they may get and then the rest will go in to a pre order queue rather than having the button say buy now and everyone gets dissapointed when nothing turns up :cry:
 
hobib_ali said:
well the 30 series was nutz, 1500+ waiting list, months on end, it was horrible for ppl, 40 series was much easier, I had like a good few hours to decide which model I wanted, placed my order and was processed, but by 5pm all the 4090s were sold, all of em, but I think there were scalped prices on used market, I think 50 series will be easier to get, as its more expensive and with the cost of living issues people wont splash out as much, i think it will only be enthusiast gamers who have spare cash sitting in their bank, and small businesses that use gamer cards instead of non consumer Quadro cards
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The scalpers may not come out for the 5090 this time (though I wouldn't rule it out), but I've a nasty feeling they'll be all over the 5080 and probably the 5070ti.
 
Vertigo said:
I can't see the 5080 being much more than 35-40% faster than the 3090 and with only two-thirds of the VRAM. Not sure how much of an upgrade that really is unless you really want the framegen stuff.
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What other choice is there? Frame gen is now clearly mandatory and necessary to run the latest and greatest graphics - even the 5090 can only manage Wukong at 28fps native.

You can't base upgrade worth on pure raster performance anymore, makes no sense. 3090 to 5080 is a huge upgrade overall.
 
Hold on fellas, I'm using this stop gap RTX 3070 after selling my RTX 4070 Ti Super. Aside from frame gen which I don;t use anyway, will any of this new DLSS tech improve performance on this card? If so I might just keep this and skip this gen :D
 
Vertigo said:
The more I look at the 5090FE, the more I hate it. Even if the cooler can deliver, the design looks simply horrid. I don't want a "sleek and compact" GPU, I want an absolute unit of a thing like the 4090FE :D
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Obviously a lot of cool tech went into the cooler and we'll have to see how it performs but it just looks cheap to me.
 
Boomstick777 said:
Hold on fellas, I'm using this stop gap RTX 3070 after selling my RTX 4070 Ti Super. Aside from frame gen which I don;t use anyway, will any of this new DLSS tech improve performance on this card? If so I might just keep this and skip this gen :D
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Yes. DLSS 4 is coming to the 4000 series. Just not MFG which is exclusive to the 5000 and which is the thing that allows them to increase performance so drastically when using RTX features.
 
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Ok, so I posted earlier wondering how DLSS4 and especially this MFG will be impacted by CPU performance?

If you watch this video they say something interesting between 1:47m - 2:22m


"Flip metering"

So I wonder if the power of the CPU will matter less then when you have a blackwell GPU when rendering DLSS4 content and using MFG as most of the magic is done on the GPU.
 
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